Ouch! I couldn't have said it better myself.
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|2009-11-10 22:07:36 Acharya SI don't support the Iraq war. What they've got now is far worse than Saddam Hussein - and at a terrible cost. And Europe is also paying the price for all the Iraqi refugees, some of whom have become mobsters there.
Instead of pretending to speak for millions of people, why don't we ask all the world's people where they would rather live, Libertyland or Oppressivestan?
Let the marketplace decide. But, of course, you'd have to guarantee the millions of Muslims who choose freedom that they won't be hacked into pieces for becoming "apostates."
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|2009-11-11 00:59:44 colt - liberty land??????are you talking about the liberty land that was stolen from the native indians???? are you talking about the liberty land where hundreds of thousands of blacks where enslaved???? are you talking of the liberty land that has more weapons stockpiled than the next ten countries put together???please keep all that bullsh*t for your hollywood films and your own sheeple. the rest of the world is awake and still capable of critical thinking and can see the evil lies and oppression are the true values of corporate america.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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|2009-11-11 01:10:52 Acharya SBy Libertyland I'm talking about what has been created under the U.S. Constitution. It is unfortunate that any country in the world has been created at the expense of native peoples - and many of them have been.
These "native peoples" in the U.S., however, also came from elsewhere, and their migration into the American lands was not always peaceful. I guess we'd better start freaking out about that fact!
We cannot change the past, and it is useless to continue to beat ourselves up over it, when we personally didn't even have anything to do with it.
In the present, however, we have a Constitution that protects all peoples from persecution based solely on race, religion, gender and so on. If people commit depraved acts based on race, religion, gender or so on, they are not protected, because there are laws against such violent and criminal behavior.
If you are unhappy living in a country like the U.S., which has been a vast improvement over anything else in history, frankly, then please by all means move to Oppressivestan.
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|2009-11-11 23:36:56 NancyMy dear Acharya, I don't think you have been looking at the right news lately if you consider the US a bastion of integrity. There have been many outrages from the American government over the years, not least the 911 atrocity.
You do not support this view I know, but can you tell us on what grounds please? When the majority of ordinary Americans are now questioning what happened I find it strange that you, as someone seeking the truth, are not also questioning the events of 911.
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|2009-11-12 01:54:52 Acharya SMy dear Nancy, what makes you think I do not know all about these conspiracy theories and such? Why do you immediately assume with cloaked hostility that I believe the party line when it comes to anything? Why are you raising 9/11 in this thread? And why are you so angry, as displayed in your messages elsewhere as well?
The fact is I utterly and completely disagree that "the U.S. government" had anything to do with 9/11. WE ARE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. If we are having our feet held to the fire for absolute accuracy when voicing an unpopular opinion, e.g., the criticism of Islam, then everyone else must be held accountable for accuracy as well.
In my view, it is despicable to label various individuals working within the United States who may have been involved in 9/11 as "the American government." Bullsh*t. I know many fine people who have served directly in the American government, and they were not involved. Again, just as we must be careful with saying things like "the Muslims did this or that" or "the Jews, etc." we must also be careful when pointing fingers of blame for other atrocities.
My take on 9/11 quite simple and factors in everything, not just one pet theory that fits your current outrage - in this case the "American government." It is obvious that individuals from a variety of agencies, both national and international, must have been involved. These would include, apparently, some officials not only within the U.S. government but also from a number of other countries, including Saudi Arabia.
That there were Saudi Arabian Muslims involved in 9/11 must be as much a fact as that there were "rogue" elements within the U.S. government involved as well. If OBL is some sort of operative, whether alive or dead now, and al Qaeda is a fake organization, then these internationalist agencies who are creating those particular illusions and "false flag operations" must certainly have utilized the Saudi element in their plots. An average Muslim like Hasan - and I'm assuming that that atrocity is what you're talking about in this current thread, which has little to do with 9/11 except that Savage brings it up - would probably not realize that OBL/al Qaeda were anything but they are presented to be.
Hence, the rank-and-file Muslims are being told in many cases by "radical" imams that 9/11 WAS a Muslim operation that Allah has allowed to punish the filthy infidel. There are videos of imams preaching about the martyrdom of the "magnificent 19." I've already posted one image of a Muslim maniac holding a sign threatening Europe with their own mass-murdering 9/11. Millions of "militant Muslims" around the globe rejoiced at the idea of the infidel being wounded in its own territory by the Islamic jihad. Many Muslim fanatics have been inspired by 9/11 to believe they can in fact dominate the world - a goal repeatedly stated by many Islamist individuals and groups.
The U.S. Constitution protects us from this nightmare, if we understand what it represents and hold it up as a sacred document that must not fall to sharia law - and, again, that is a stated goal by various Islamists - who are not the pitiful and powerless rabble you and so many others are evidently making them out to be with your passionate and misguided defenses. It's really time for everyone to know these facts - those who are mindlessly defending Islamism really do not have all the facts. I have read and studied what they have read, but they have not studied what I have.
The U.S. Constitution is my sacred text, and it will not be spit upon and degraded by infidels. To overturn the Constitution and force sharia law upon us all insults my god and my religion. The struggle has always been to make sure everyone adheres to the U.S. Constitution, and those agencies who have not are therefore rogue, illegal and unethical. The Constitutional ideals remain, whether or not the document is followed.
It is completely deleterious to mankind to pretend that Islamism is not a threat to our very freedoms. Our entire global civilization largely depends on this issue - which is at a make-or-break point. To side with an archaic, barbarous system of abuse and brutality over the enlightenment provided by the U.S. Constitution is not only sheer madness, it is also a reckless endangerment of all decent human beings.
Sticking your head in the Saud sands is a really bad idea.
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|2009-11-12 21:40:48 coltwhy should the u.s come to muslim countries and impose their way of life on us. that is an insult to the muslims god and religion. the u.s started this confrontation. to end it is simple, get out of iraq and afghanistan etc and take those puppets you put in charge of us with you. oh but you dont want to do that because then you cant steal the oil and other resources. sorry we cant just stand by and watch the destruction the u.s and its allies cause. we will keep speaking out against this oppresion. i admit ther are extremist muslims but they do not represent Islam. they are accountable for their actions so dont try and paint everyone with the same brush.islam is not a threat to your freedom. your illegal wars are a threat to your freedom. its time for the u.s to get rid of all those nukes and weapons and start sowing the seeds of love. assalaam alaikum (peace be to you)
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|2009-11-16 02:59:45 Acharya S"the u.s started this confrontation."
WHICH confrontation? Muslim fanatics have been rampaging all over the world for the past 1,400 years, long before the U.S. existed.
"you put in charge of us with you oh but you dont want to do that because then you cant steal the oil and other resources. "
Who is "you?" I have nothing to do with it. Shall I blame YOU for all the atrocities committed by Muslims over the past 1,400 years - the some 270 million people murdered in the name of Allah, Mohammed and the Koran?
If I had my way, we would have been off oil many years ago - we would never have gotten addicted to it in the first place.
paint everyone with the same brush
"so dont try and paint everyone with the same brush.islam is not a threat to your freedom. your illegal wars are a threat to your freedom."
It's pretty funny that you have in the first sentence chastised others for "painting everyone with the same brush" and then in the next you go on to implicate me in "illegal wars," as if I had anything to do with them.
You seem to be a typical angry Muslim bent on pointing his fingers at everyone else, without knowing who they are. I have protested against many of these wars over the decades I've been alive. I have no interest in being addicted to oil and giving trillions of dollars to people who are flooding non-Muslim countries with radicalizing mosques that threaten our national security.
Nor do I have any interest in having soldiers fight wars in countries like Iraq, for a variety of reasons. I would prefer if we could turn back the clock a couple of decades before all this chaos has so dramatically changed the world's demographics.
Yes, I can feel the peace and the love in a rant that has just accused me of being involved in a variety of crimes.
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|2009-11-11 23:32:28 Arhata - Michael SavageThe US is Not the question here. (Christians, which I'm not) don't go around blowing up people on streets. Most all of the 'nutcases'
who commit crimes in the US are not Christians. Islam is an 'ideology' that
calls for killing non Christians. The US is not the question here. Radical Islam is. Radical Christianity? Jerry Falwell? Killing - don't think so.
Savage is very aware of his schpiel and, accurate.
Islam is a 7th century abomination regardless that some of it's sheep are regular people, they have made an unconscious choice that is on a lower category of options available.
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|2009-11-15 19:43:42 coltyes they do blow up innicent civilians in terrorist attacks......hiroshima nagasaki, iraq etc
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|2009-12-06 10:55:37 DavidAn excellent presentation, Mr Savage. And the score from one of my favourite films, too. I played your "video" to my wife, who cannot be said to be particularly interested in politics. I was surprised by her reaction to what you said. She was near tears.
You are right, your Constitution is the finest document that ever saw the light of day. How I wish that we Europeans had something that we even half as good. Guard it with your lives; it is all that stands between you and tryanny.
I urge you all ...do not follow where Europe leads.
Patriots might want to support this e-petition.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-more-Muslim-immigration
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we dont want to be americanized so please keep your violent greedy wasy to yourself and there will be no problem.