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 Post subject: Burning Books
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:54 pm 
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One of the scriptures that the Mythicist view makes me think about is Acts 19:19 in which the burning of books is described as a virtuous act, "Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all [men]: and they counted the price of them, and found [it] fifty thousand [pieces] of silver."

It seems to me that this passage refers a deliberate attempt to hide the origins of Christianity. Considering how prevalent astrology was in Roman society, I think they wanted to suppress the astrological references in Christianity. IMO, this site seems to avoid discussion about the calculated deception that went into establishing Christianity and which is still practiced .

On a related note, I am a little surprised at the strict moderation on this forum. Delaying posts for 24+ hours only serves to inhibit discussions. On the other hand, I am struck by the very real precautions that someone like Acharya must take to protect herself from the merchants of deception. I wonder if this forum was more active in the past and what sort of history it has had. I always do a quick search before I post something, and I plan to browse the threads more thoroughly, but I haven't done so yet.

I think truth is one of the most destructive and volatile forces in our society, but that's because it's so "marinated in falsity", as Gore Vidal once said. I'm not posting here to stir up trouble. However, I think the subject matter has many implications that adults would want to explore. I think that if research like Acharya's and that of other scholars had been available a hundred years ago, a braver and more enlightened society would have been more aggressive in confronting our society's deceivers and manipulators.


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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:24 am 
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"Delaying posts for 24+ hours only serves to inhibit discussions"

Yes, I know. It's just what we have to do here at first for newbies because we're under constant attack. After a couple posts get approved then it's back to normal.

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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:30 pm 
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Fatudo wrote:
IMO, this site seems to avoid discussion about the calculated deception that went into establishing Christianity and which is still practiced .


That's just because you haven't read through enough of this forum yet as you pointed out in the post.

It was a very calculated deception and that deception is very much still practiced. Let's take Justin Martyr's famous 'The Devil Got Their First' apology. Here's a guy who had to make a very calculated claim that the reason Christianity is similar to pagan myths is because the Devil knew that Christ would be coming and sought to fool people into thinking that the Christ had already arrived before the common era. To know and understand how similar Christianity is to the pagan religions of old is to know good and well that the latter had come along and made use of the former. To try and chalk it up to the devil is just plain deceptive on the part of Martyr.

And now we have modern apologists disregarding Martyr's apology and claiming that there were no similarities and basically contradicting Martyr in the process. It's a new type of calculated deception. These people know good and well that there's a ton of pagan motifs within the Christian tradition. And yet they lie bold faced to try and cover this knowledge over in order to preserve their institutional religious sects. The book burnings, persecution of astrologers, destruction of ancient records and all of it, boils down to a very conscious attempt to twist history in favor of an orthodox reading of history. It involved lots and lots of deception that continues on to this very day. And the people who frequent these forums are generally those who have put their foot down and call it as it is. The others who come here to troll around are the minority. But they show up from time to time.

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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:05 am 
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Fatudo wrote:
On a related note, I am a little surprised at the strict moderation on this forum. Delaying posts for 24+ hours only serves to inhibit discussions. On the other hand, I am struck by the very real precautions that someone like Acharya must take to protect herself from the merchants of deception. I wonder if this forum was more active in the past and what sort of history it has had. I always do a quick search before I post something, and I plan to browse the threads more thoroughly, but I haven't done so yet.

I think truth is one of the most destructive and volatile forces in our society, but that's because it's so "marinated in falsity", as Gore Vidal once said. I'm not posting here to stir up trouble. However, I think the subject matter has many implications that adults would want to explore. I think that if research like Acharya's and that of other scholars had been available a hundred years ago, a braver and more enlightened society would have been more aggressive in confronting our society's deceivers and manipulators.


I've actually never took note of that and I've been posting here for about almost a year.


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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:53 am 
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Fatudo, there have been a lot of trolls come through and it's not an easy task to deal with. I'm sure it's nothing personal, just precautions. As for discussing the calculated deception within Xianity the others are right, there is a thread here on it somewhere, I just can't remember where though. When I get time, if you don't stumble onto it first, maybe I'll find it.

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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:50 pm 
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Please excuse my frustration. My posts are no longer being delayed, and I am becoming better acquainted with previous threads here. I hope people don't mind my casual comments here.


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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:24 pm 
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Fatudo wrote:
Please excuse my frustration. My posts are no longer being delayed, and I am becoming better acquainted with previous threads here. I hope people don't mind my casual comments here.


It's quite alright, welcome to the fold.

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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:27 pm 
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Voice of Reason wrote:
Fatudo wrote:
Please excuse my frustration. My posts are no longer being delayed, and I am becoming better acquainted with previous threads here. I hope people don't mind my casual comments here.


It's quite alright, welcome to the fold.

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:lol: Sorry I couldn't resist.


I thought it was Xians who were Borg. Esp A of G (Pentecostals).

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 Post subject: Re: Burning Books
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:35 pm 
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Mriana wrote:
I thought it was Xians who were Borg. Esp A of G (Pentecostals).


I saw a Borg reference and couldn't pass it up, so sue me.


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