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You haven't read a page of those books. How could you possibly know what they do or do not contain?

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And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist [1 John 4:3]

Have read so many other books so long ago, which make child's play of your fairytale-mongering stories. They couldn't possibly convince me of anything, because their premise in based on childhood fantasy stories for adults. Fiction is fiction. Nothing you or your 'esteemed' authors can change that. Now I must soon get back to my Aprhodite chapel or I will have consequences to pay!

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"They must find it difficult...those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as the Authority." -- Gerald Massey, Egyptologist
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I have the primary source for all the gospels. It is the Egyptian Book of the Dead:

"Osiris, I am your son, come to glorify your soul, and to give you even more power." - Horus, (Book of the Dead, Ch. 173)

"Now is the Son of Man glorified and God is glorified in him. If God is glorified in him, God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once." - Jesus, (John 13:31-

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LOL - nice one Jas


"Rylands fragment" or P52, which contains several dozen letters scattered across four verses of John's gospel (18:31-33). The presumed dating of P52 to the first half of the second century has been called "sensational" and seems untenable.
~ WWJ 68

"...paleographical study published in the Archiv für Papyrusforschung 35 (1989), German scholar Andreas Schmidt suggested a date for P52 of 170 AD/CE +/- 25 years."
~ WWJ 69

New Testament professor and Christian manuscript expert Dr. Larry Hurtado states: ...because paleographical dating can rarely be more precise than +/- 25 to 50 years, the proposed dating of many manuscripts will lie across two centuries (e.g., second/third century CE)."
~ WWJ 69


Yeah, we call that bigotry and fundamentalism. How soon before you start burning people alive again and hanging innocent folks in the streets again? How long before the new, modern Inquisitions kick in full blast? GreekO', you belong to an evil CULT - simple as that.

Now, how do you plan to meet the Jesus challenge with primary source evidence?

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2013 Astrotheology Calendar
The Mythicist Position
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection
Stellar House Publishing at Youtube

You know .. I want to know How much this "contest" pays? I had read 1 million somewhere in this thread? Or was that my imagination....

OK Question 2:

* Why were the Gospels originally written in Greek when Jesus supposedly spoke Aramaic?

Answer:

Jesus(IHVShVS) was taught Egyptian in his primary years:

Mat 2:15 (KJV 1611)
And was there vntill the death of Herode, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the Prophet, saying, Out of Egypt haue I called my sonne.


SInce the Gospels were written in an ancient language before the Greek language it would've been translated in multiple languages. And Jesus spoke the Helian Language anyways...


Iesvs

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There is not a shred of evidence supporting anything in the post above mine. Not one shred. And he is guilty of the fallacy of false cause (post hoc ergo propter hoc). Just because two things or ideas co-exist, does not prove one borrowed from or was influenced by the other.

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And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist [1 John 4:3]

Freethink, it is obvious you go to people who will only confirm what it is you want to hear. You are horrified of the idea that Jesus Christ might exist. That thought terrifies you because then you are accountable to Him.

You have commited the argumentum ad vericundiam fallacy -- appeal to unqualified authorities. I already referenced the scholary sources for my claims. Look them up.

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And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist [1 John 4:3]

The text doesn't say anywhere he was taught Egypt. It says he was there as an infant.



Jesus was there as a baby. Not old enough to be taught anything. And Matthew doesn't say he was taught Egyprian. YOU said that, but Matthew doesn't.




What are your sources? What "Helian" language can you show us within the first century? We have over 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the NT.

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And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist [1 John 4:3]

Youb know G.O. that is coincidental correlation. What you assume is that becuase you didn't believe Jesus existed and then started toi believe, that Freethinkin is going to come to the same LOGICAL CONCLUSION you came to...

So because you exist and believe does not mean that Freethin will believe just as you have.

You are the One horrified that God's Annointed way of Salvation may not be a FACTUAL PERSON. As a matter of fact ...

You need the strength of a Unicorn to help you out of Egypt....



Num 23:22
God brought them out of Egypt he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Wait a minute... the Bible isn't mythological only Unicorns are.....

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GO:
The text doesn't say anywhere he was taught Egypt. It says he was there as an infant.

Jas:

OK so what year did he arrive and depart from Egypt? How old was Jesus when he left Egypt? It is safe to assume that children learn at a very early age. Since you cannot provide which year and day Jesus arrived in Egypt I would say your comment is flawed and incorrect.

How much time lapsed from Matthew 2:15 and 2:22?
Is it safe to assume that since there are 66 books in the Bible that each book represents a thousand years? And since there are 28 Chapters in Matthew that each chapter represents 35 years and since there are 23 verses in Chapter 28 it was approximately 1.25 years. So with 5 verses we get 6¼ years.

Would this be safe to assume in your scientific mind of the Aiguptos Biblos ton Nekros?

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There's a really simple reason for this, destruction of literature.

I find it almost laughable that the Orthodoxes claim to be the true church, and the Mormons and the Catholics, and the Anglicans, Protestants, Jehovahs Witnesses, Exclusive Brethren, etc,.
Quite laughable.

I bought a copy of the Egyptian Book of the Dead (certainly a primary source?) and flicked through a few pages on the train -- was incredibly amused.

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"No one goes to the Father but by me"

That's what the Sun was used for - as the medium between God and man - the very thing that Jesus is being used for in the verse.

The Greek Orthodox Church is a Solar cult just like every other Solar cult! You are correct, the Sun is the founder of your Church and serves as the medium between God and Man just as the myths have always suggested. Some day this is going to finally hit you like a load of bricks.

Do you worship God on the Sun's day?

What's that all about?

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

Jas:
OK so if C.S. Lewis states that Christ is the fulfillment of the pagan myths, How could the life of XP(Christ) NOT FIT the genre of mythology?

Again, How could Christ life NOT fit the genre of mythology IF he is the fulfillment of the PAGAN myths? Sounds like a direct correlation to the genre of mythology from my limited agnostic, doubting, freethinking, materialistic, skeptical, unbelievingpoint of view.

The WORD became flesh . Sound familiar. And you are so biased and brainwashed yourself I pray that Charon help's you cross the river styx.

PS - Don't forget the coin....

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And just where do you assume he was all that time before he was in his father's house at the age of 12? Just wandering around somewhere between Egypt and Israel? The character is very well educated and this becomes very clear by the time he was "12". However, once again, IF one removes the literalism, this refers back to the hours of the day 6, 12, 6 and 12. 12 noon, he is in his father's house. This goes back to Horus.

Since Acharya's book isn't out yet, I suggest to you Tom Harpur's book The Pagan Christ.

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Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison

I'm going to post this Challenge on CARM.org.