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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:49 pm 
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The Hero Pattern

This pattern is based upon The Hero: A study in Tradition, Myth and Dreams by Lord Raglan

Incidents which occur with regularity in hero-myths of all cultures:

1. Hero's mother is a royal virgin;
2. His father is a king, and
3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
5. He is also reputed to be the son of a god.
6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grand father to kill him, but
7. he is spirited away, and
8. Reared by foster -parents in a far country.
9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future Kingdom.
11. After a victory over the king and/or a giant, dragon, or wild beast,
12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
13. And becomes king.
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
15. Prescribes laws, but
16. Later he loses favor with the gods and/or his subjects, and
17. Is driven from the throne and city, after which
18. He meets with a mysterious death,
19. Often at the top of a hill,
20. His children, if any do not succeed him.
21. His body is not buried, but nevertheless
22. He has one or more holy sepulchres.

Click on the name to see the pattern applied to the life of :

Krishna (21) / Moses (20) / Romulus (19) / King Arthur (19) / Perseus (18) / Jesus (18) / Watu Gunung of Java (18) / Heracles (17) Mohammad (17) / Beowulf (15) / Buddha (15) / Zeus (14) / Nyikang, a cult-hero of the Shiluk tribe of the Upper Nile (14) / Samson (13) / Sunjata, the Lion-King of Ancient Mali (11) / Achilles (10) / Odysseus (8) / Harry Potter (8) / Czar Nicholas II (14)

Individuals are listed in the order in which they fit the pattern. Numbers in parentheses indicate the number of pattern points which apply.

See also Women and the Hero Pattern.

* This document was placed on the web by Professor Thomas J. Sienkewicz for his students in CLAS230 Classical Mythology at Monmouth College, Monmouth, Illinois. It is based upon material he has used in mythology classes for many years, first at Howard University in Washington, D.C., and then at Monmouth College in Monmouth, Illinois. If you have any questions, you may contact him at (toms@monm.edu).

(http://department.monm.edu/classics/Cou ... efault.htm)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:13 pm 
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What?!

That's blasphemy! ^&%$#

Where are this guy's credentials?! :shock: He's STUPID. What an arrogant jerk. #$&$^#

:twisted:

Obviously, I'm just kidding - and demonstrating the typical reaction one may receive when daring to expose comparative religion and mythology.

Thanks for finding and posting that - a very valuable contribution.

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In case your interested...

Various Patterns of Hero Journeys:
(http://www.faculty.de.gcsu.edu/~mmagoul ... tterns.htm)

Claude Lévi-Strauss’s view of the hero
Clyde Kluckhohn's Pattern
Johann Georg von Hahn’s Hero Pattern
Jan De Vries Hero Pattern
Lord Raglan’s Hero Pattern
Joseph Campbell’s Structure


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Acharya wrote:
What?!

That's blasphemy! ^&%$#

Where are this guy's credentials?! :shock: He's STUPID. What an arrogant jerk. #$&$^#

:twisted:

Obviously, I'm just kidding - and demonstrating the typical reaction one may receive when daring to expose comparative religion and mythology.

Thanks for finding and posting that - a very valuable contribution.


Yes, I got a mixed bag of reactions when I compared the Gitagovinda to Greek mythology. Some laughed some frowned. But hey, I call them as I see them. :lol: The girl who is part Asian and loves studying Asian stuff laughed, so it couldn't have been that bad.

I guess I have no respect for religion. Well, arma-geddin' outa here.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:30 pm 
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Mriana wrote:
Yes, I got a mixed bag of reactions when I compared the Gitagovinda to Greek mythology. Some laughed some frowned. But hey, I call them as I see them. :lol:

Did they also chortle when you compared Greek with Sanskrit and told them that both are Indo-European languages? So, if - as is accepted by current linguistical theory - Greek and Sanskrit are highly related, sharing a common root that dates back some 3,000 years, while other European languages also have a common root with Indian languages, as in "Indo-European," why would there not also be links between the religions of these cultures? Did they all just erupt independently in a vacuum the moment these cultures became separated?

Honestly, I don't understand why this concept is so hard to grok. :shock:

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Acharya wrote:
Honestly, I don't understand why this concept is so hard to grok. :shock:


I don't either. I didn't think about the Greek and Sanskrit being similar. I totally forgot about that. I may have done enough to distract the class as well though, with my Greek oragy bit. My exact words were, "Sounds like a Greek oragy." :twisted: It was after class I compared it even more to Greek myth. I'm so bad.

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Acharya,

Have you, or has anyone, ever done a comparison between the 12 biblical disciples and the 12 zodiac signs? Is there any correlation between the characters in the bible and the standard astrological interpretations for those signs?

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Yes, I discuss this subject in some detail in The Christ Conspiracy.

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Acharya,

Have you, or has anyone, ever done a comparison between the 12 biblical disciples and the 12 zodiac signs? Is there any correlation between the characters in the bible and the standard astrological interpretations for those signs?

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Female Candidates for the Hero Pattern

These nominations were made by members of Prof. Sienkewicz' Classical Mythology class at Monmouth College in the spring semester of 1999. Click on the name to see how the life of each woman can be applied to Lord Raglan's hero pattern.

Penelope
Helen of Troy
Guinivere
Joan of Arc
Hero in Shakespeare's "Much Ado about Nothing"
Princess Diana
Princess Leah ("Star Wars")
Tori Amos
Nefertiti (1)
Nefertiti (2)
Cleopatra
Irene of Athens
Susan B. Anthony
Helen Keller
Harriet Tubman
Sacagawea
Semiramis, Queen of Assyria
Antigone
Jane Addams
Marie de Medici

This document was placed on the web by Professor Thomas J. Sienkewicz for his students in CLAS230 Classical Mythology at Monmouth College, Monmouth, Illinois.

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