Keith Thompson Interviewed by Chris White (NowhereToRun1984)
45 - CW "sloppy...she doesn't source things & things like that"
Chris White (CW) has clearly never actually studied Acharya's work as she has 4 books to date totaling nearly 2,000 pages with over 5,550 footnotes/citations. "Christ in Egypt" contains over 2,400 ALONE.
1:00 CW "She's had plenty of people over the years just outright own her showing that she just made things up." KT "Licona, Price"
Nobody has ever demonstrated that she made anything up because she never has - it's a lie that people like KT & CW select to believe.
Licona is a hypocritical Christian apologist with double-standards out to shore-up the faith. He's an atheist when it comes to all other gods and religions but when it comes to Jesus as the son of God, born of a virgin, walked on water, healed the blind & sick, raised the dead, was crucified on a cross and resurrected 3 days later, soon to return - Licona really believes he did and said everything in the bible. "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
- Historian Stephen Henry Roberts 1901-71
KT & CW conveniently omits the fact that Dr. R. Price removed his review of "Christ Conspiracy" YEARS AGO
because he no longer stands by it. And he wrote the foreword to Acharya's book titled, "Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ" (2007). And he also leans towards her work demonstrating a late 2nd century gospel creation.
1:20 CW "She knows on some level that she is disseminating false info. Like her new book "Christ in Egypt" I don't know if it's out... but all the research she did in that she found out at some point that it was not true..."
CIE has been out since Feb 2009. The nearly 600 page book demonstrates with a monumental amount of primary sources, expert commentary and peer reviewed scholarly journals from a huge bibliographical collection of over 900 references that in fact, her research is not "made up" but, rather based on actual facts and evidence. She doesn't need to make anything up like KT and CW do - they are pathological liars on these issues. Neither KT or CW have studied any of her books let alone this one. They honestly believe that their OPINION
is all they need to be an authority to decide what is or what is not true. Their constant stream of xian biases and bigotry ruins any credibility they think they have. They are "Liars for the Lord" as Joseph Wheless said.
1:50 KT "She quotes Plutarch as saying that Horus was born in the winter solstice. First of all, Plutarch is so far removed from the Egyptian religion that to quote him as an authority on the objective belief of the Egyptians is just ridiculous. Plutarch was like a 1st or 2nd century historian. He wasn't an ancient historian from 3,000 BC or something."
What evidence does KT have that Plutarch was "far removed" from the Egyptian religion? KT is simply ignorant concerning both Plutarch and the Egyptian religion. Plutarch lived at a time when the Egyptian religion was very popular all over the Roman Empire, throughout the Mediterranean. Nothing major Plutarch said differed from what we know about the Egyptian religion today. Even Budge - a Christian - and Egyptologist says Plutarch is accurate. Besides the evidence of Horus being born on the winter solstice doesn't rest with Plutarch. There is much more, but KT and CW wouldn't know that either. Neither of them have any qualifications or credentials between them. No formal training no linguistic skills, nothing. They're just fundy Christians out to shore-up the faith however they can. Even if it means smearing, libeling and defaming a single female author/scholar - an actual living human being.
2:30 [Plutarch] "That's the Genesis of this thing. So, of course her base level has to be Plutarch and the rest has to lie...she sources her references from Plutarch on but she has to lie from pre-Plutarch"
LOL, there are primary sources prior to Plutarch in all of her works but in CIE it's enormous - these guys clearly have no clue what they're talking about. Anyone who's actually studied her works knows better - anyone who's read CIE will laugh at that notion. These guys have no idea how badly & deeply they're putting their foot in their mouths and thoroughly embarrassing themselves.
I would feel sorry for them except that people have actually explained to them they're wrong for over a year since they started their smear campaign after Zeitgeist first came out in the summer/fall of 2007 - and they refused to make any necessary corrections. Yes, even AFTER
they've been corrected and it has been demonstrated to them they were wrong - they continued on repeating the same lies. Notice all they can do is claim "she's lying" or "making it up" but they can't demonstrate it in any honest way whatsoever - that's because it's a lie. They're lying about her work and it's called "libel" and in audio it's called "slander" when you know you're lying and you do it on purpose with malicious intent it's against the law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
2:50 KT "I know she's been coaching a kid on youtube named dudekin"
Another false claim - ask dudekin if Acharya has ever been in contact with him at all & the answer will be no. Just because dudekin or anyone else has actually read Acharya's works and defends it against lies or tries to set the record straight doesn't mean Acharya is coaching them or even in contact with them at all. People like KT & CW cannot accept the fact that someone who has studied her works just knows for a fact that they're wrong. These guys go around the net accusing anyone who defends Acharya's works as being *HER* - and now KT is accusing them of being "coached by her" - it's so utterly absurd. These guys have serious issues.
3:05 KT "I made the true claim that no one in the ancient world umm...basically, the claim that Jesus was just the sun and never existed or was the age of Pisces is a completely modern claim. That wasn't a claim in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th centuries."
No KT, your claim has already thoroughly been addressed on the first page here from the "New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement" video was - KT At 6 minutes said "these claims that Jesus is just the sun or that Christianity is just a metaphor for astrology are not ancient beliefs at all. In fact, these accusations only appear in the later half of previous millennium
Keith, your claim that "these accusations only appear in the later half of previous millennium" was proven utterly false, and there's no way for you to get out of it. You've been check-mated with 'nowhere to run' because the facts and evidence show that Jesus has been equated with the sun by many including early church fathers & others throughout history. Tertullian had to address the accusation that Christians worshipped the sun on at least two different occasions. Christian churches to this day still face the east when and where possible.
You tried to imply as you have many times before that it all originated with Blavatsky. That claim is so embarrassingly bogus that only you and CW would attempt to keep repeating it. It demonstrates the embarrassing ignorance you have on these issues. It's no wonder decent Christians distance themselves from you.
Fortunately, the editors of the Catholic Encyclopedia were better educated and didn't have honesty or comprehension issues when it came to Tertullian - they paraphrased his comments from Ad Nationes like this: "You say we worship the sun, so do you"
3:30 KT "What they did was they quoted a Tertullian passage ...and a St. Augustine passage totally out of context."
The only person here taking things out of context so they can smear, libel and slander others is YOU
There are whole studies of the sun symbolism in Christianity, which goes back to Malachi 4:2 and the Church fathers. But, again, you wouldn't know all that, because you are a 19-year-old kid with little education and knowledge. And your organized criminal racket religion prevents you from actually studying anything relevant to the subject you pretend to know all about.
Here's Clement of Alexandria commenting on the Gnostic Valentinus says, "...the Apostles were substituted for the twelve signs of the Zodiac..." http://www.hypotyposeis.org/papers/theodotus.htm
Like I say, that's only a tiny bit of MUCH more.
4:30 KT "There's no evidence that they thought Jesus was the sun that's just not in there." "Since the Sun passes through the twelve signs of the zodiac in the twelve months of the year, the passing of the year was commonly indicated by the number twelve. For some early Christians, just as the Sun signified Christ so were his twelve apostles indicated by the twelve signs, the twelve months, or the twelve hours from sunrise to sunset."
9:30 KT "This claim the Jesus is Horus and Osiris the sun. If you read "Essays by Blavatsky"...she quotes some fringe scholar and then agrees with him she says:
"De Maleville, a great Hebrew scholar and translator of Rabbinical literature, observes that the Jews give to the moon all those names which, in the Litanies, are used to glorify the Virgin. He finds in the Litanies of Jesus all the attributes of Osiris — the Eternal Sun, and of Horus, the Annual Sun. And he proves it."Lucifer Magazine 1889 original at Harvard University page 233
KT "That's exactly what Acharya is pushing"
Lets not forget that Zeitgeist only cited Blavatsky ONCE
. And Acharya only cites her 3 times in "Christ Conspiracy." So, once again, Keith Trash is full of complete lies. Acharya is NOT pushing anything whatsoever having to do with Blavatsky. This is just another attempt to link Acharya with Blavatsky however you can regardless of the giant leap of faith it takes to get there. Your slander and lies, KT, are probably why your stupid videos keep being removed and your account is blocked. Ever think of that?
KT has just proved his own idiotic contention WRONG, because KT has just shown that Blavatsky did *NOT* originate the idea that Jesus was the sun.
KT also is completely ignorant of Egyptian mythology, which clearly equates Osiris and Horus with the SUN. Acharya has over 600 pages of research on the Egyptian religion - none of which quotes Blavatsky or this other guy. Acharya is quoting EGYPTOLOGISTS
, Keith, but you wouldn't know that because you are NOT an expert on Egyptian religion or Acharya's work. You just keep repeating LIES, like some demented parrot.
The claims that Christ as the sun originated in modern history are also complete LIES - and very stupid ones that anyone can disprove. There's NOTHING "out of context"
about the Tertullian quotes. But the proof doesn't begin or end there, but, again, you wouldn't know that fact, because you are completely IGNORANT of the history of your own religion. Keep making these stupid recordings full of lies and slander, KT and CW - you are just shooting yourselves in the foot by showing your unbelievable ignorance, arrogance and conceit. Intelligent people will see through your BS - all they have to do is check and actually check Acharya's works for themselves.
KT didn't cite his source very well and why didn't Keith dig deeper into the original by De Maleville? Wouldn't an objective person be curious what he wrote, when he wrote it and in what book? Or was it just more convenient to Keith's argument to just leave it there implying a connection between Blavatsky and Acharya to smear Acharya? Keith please explain how specifically this guy is "a fringe scholar"?
If Blavatsky is quoting another person long before her then, clearly Blavatsky didn't originate the claims as Keith tried to imply in his full version google videos. Then, Keith has just proven himself wrong. Keith, feel free to provide us with the further details from De Maleville - please provide some of his context - cite his book & page number too. Unless, of course, objective research isn't of interest to you then, just do nothing and we'll take it as an acknowledgment that you're only goal is to libel, smear and defame Acharya. Thanks for that admission in advance. We can expect an apology to Acharya when, Keith?
Keith Thompson Interviewed by Chris White (NowhereToRun1984) 2009 Radio/Podcast [3/5]
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Keith still doesn't know what theosophy is or what it means.