Post subject: Zeitgeist Part 1 & the Supportive Evidence
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:22 am
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In the links and posts below you will find a massive amount of documentation validating the claims concerning religion in Part 1 of the first "Zeitgeist" movie. At least with regards to that which cited Acharya's work - she should not be expected to vouch for work that isn't hers.
Zeitgeist part 1 is only around 25 minutes long and was never created to serve as a scholarly documentary. The transcript and subtitles have been translated into nearly 3 dozen different languages and has been viewed over 100 million times worldwide. All one has to do is read the Q & A at the Zeitgeist website to see how ZG came into existence:
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"Zeitgeist came into existence as a personal project which was shown in New York as a free public awareness expression. After the event was over, "The Movie" was tossed online with little thought given to a public response. Within a month, the film was getting record views. Months later, the "Final Edition" was completed. In total, the views for "Zeitgeist, The Movie" have exceeded 50,000,000 on Google video alone. Considering the other posts in different formats, along with public screenings, it is estimated that the total world views are well over 100 Million."
Post subject: Re: Documented Sources for Zeitgeist Part One
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:42 am
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* Acharya S/Murdock had no part in the creation of any of the Zeitgeist movies beyond sharing some images for part 1. Peter Joseph did use a significant amount of her work though and asked for a quick consultation at the last minute, which resulted in the OFFICIAL version of part 1. She had nothing to do with parts 2, 3, Addendum or the movement. She cannot be expected to vouch for any material in Zeitgeist that did not come from her work.
* Note: Online articles, blogs and excerpts etc do NOT contain all of the details - that is what the books are for.
Special articles of interest
The Real ZEITGEIST Challenge (This page with a long article and ebook contains a radio program with Acharya hosted by Peter Joseph specifically addressing ZG, Part 1.)
Bone-Box No Proof of Jesus (NB: This article was published in a three-part series in the magazine Secular Nation, at the suggestion of Dr. Robert Price, who called the series "fine articles." Secular Nation had never published a three-part article before.)
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection (CIE) is a nearly 600 page book specifically written to substantiate the claims in Zeitgeist part 1 and Acharya's previous works related to the Egyptian religion.
Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ (WWJ) is a lighter read for a Christian audience and anyone interested in commentary from Christian NT scholars admitting that there's no credible evidence for Jesus. WWJ contains an almost all Christian authority bibliography.
Post subject: Re: Zeitgeist Part 1 & Acharya's Mountain of Evidence
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:49 pm
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Acharya S/Murdock is also featured in a new documentary film entitled, God in the Box which will be released in spring 2010. Enjoy an interesting video clip of Acharya S/Murdock at 2:05 through 2:45:
Have a local screening of the film in your local area
Post subject: Re: Zeitgeist Part 1 & Acharya's Mountain of Evidence
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:58 am
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Quote:
Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of the Christ:
"For years, people have asked me to provide a short and easy-to-read summary of the "life of Jesus" to share with family and friends. I am delighted to announce that I have now written a book designed to do just that, and that you can order this new book, Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ right now!
Who Was Jesus? is specifically designed for Christians and uses mainly Christian texts and authorities. It starts out recounting the story of Christ found mostly in Matthew, followed by a short discussion of each of the other gospels, where they meet and diverge from each other. Next, I discuss the concept of "textual harmonization" as well as the gospel dates, revealing that the gospels are a mass of "variant readings" and that their authorship and dates are uncertain. I also delve into some Old Testament "prefiguring" and "prophecies," providing all-new, original side-by-side charts. Next come many reasons why people do not believe the story of Jesus Christ, along with the standard apologies for such objections and a chapter discussing whether or not the gospel story is history or propaganda. Finally there is a conclusion reminding the readers how much of our future rests upon this issue and how it should not be taken lightly...."
Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ contains quotes from the following Christian authorities, apologists and evangelicals, as well as New Testament scholars:
* John Ankerberg * Craig L. Blomberg * F.F. Bruce * William Lane Craig * John Dominic Crossan * Bart Ehrman * Norman Geisler * Gary Habermas * Josh McDowell * John P. Meier * Bruce M. Metzger * J.P. Moreland * Ronald H. Nash * Lee Strobel * Merrill C. Tenney * Ben Witherington * Edwin Yamauchi * And more!
Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ includes a Foreword by Dr. Robert M. Price!
Of course, it all comes from her book titled, Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled, published in September of 2004, while the lecture took place in December of 2004. http://www.truthbeknown.com/sunsofgod.htm
Post subject: Re: Zeitgeist part 1 & the Documented Evidence
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:16 pm
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Here's a video clip of modern Egyptologist Dr. Bojana Mojsov admitting parallels between Osiris &/or Horus with Jesus. And, at 5:30 you'll see a stone carving of Isis as she hovers over Osiris in the form of a bird to receive the divine seed (notice there's no 'member') of Osiris. Mojsov then says, "It's a miraculous birth of the savior child."
Post subject: Re: Zeitgeist Part 1 & the Supportive Evidence
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:24 pm
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Never before has there been such a clearly defined and thoroughly explained Mythicist Position - until now ...
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The Mythicist Position:
"Mythicism represents the perspective that many gods, goddesses and other heroes and legendary figures said to possess extraordinary and/or supernatural attributes are not "real people" but are in fact mythological characters. Along with this view comes the recognition that many of these figures personify or symbolize natural phenomena, such as the sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations, etc., constituting what is called "astrotheology." As a major example of the mythicist position, various biblical characters such as Adam and Eve, Satan, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, King David, Solomon & Jesus Christ, among other figures, in reality represent mythological characters along the same lines as the Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian, Greek, Roman and other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths, rather than historical figures."
What people are saying about the work of Acharya S/D.M. Murdock
"I find it undeniable that ... many of the epic heroes and ancient patriarchs and matriarchs of the Old Testament were personified stars, planets, and constellations."
"Your scholarship is relentless! ...the research conducted by D.M. Murdock concerning the myth of Jesus Christ is certainly both valuable and worthy of consideration."
"I've known people with triple Ph.D's who haven't come close to the scholarship in Who Was Jesus?"
— Pastor David Bruce, M.Div
"Thirty years ago, when in divinity school, I might have had second thoughts about becoming an Episcopal priest if a book like D. M. Murdock's Who Was Jesus? had been available to me."
— Bob Semes, Retired university professor of History and Religion
"Ms. Murdock is one of only a tiny number of scholars with the richly diverse academic background (and the necessary courage) to adequately address the question of whether Jesus Christ truly existed as a walking-talking figure in first-century Palestine."
"Acharya S deserves to be recognized as a leading researcher and an expert in the field of comparative mythology, on a par with James Frazer or Robert Graves—indeed, superior to those forerunners in the frankness of her conclusions and the volume of her evidence."
— Barbara Walker
"...I have found her scholarship, research, knowledge of the original languages, and creative linkages to be breathtaking and highly stimulating."
— Rev. Dr. Jon Burnham, Pastor, Presbyterian Church
"Acharya S has done a superb job in bringing together the rich panoply of ancient world mythology and culture, and presenting it in a comprehensive and compelling fashion ... We sorely need a new History of Religions School for the 21st century, to apply modern techniques to this important ancient material. Perhaps this book will help bring that about."
— Earl Doherty
"The Christ Conspiracy—very, very scholarly and wholly researched—is a book for today..."
- Rev. B. Strauss, ex-Catholic Priest
"Amidst the global chaos of George Bush's War on Terror, largely founded on religious intolerance and simplistic notions of good and evil, Acharya S is the voice of reason."
— Joan D'Arc, Paranoia Magazine
"Thank you, Acharya, for the important work you are doing. Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of the Christ just might be the best short introduction to Biblical scholarship yet."
— David Bergland, 1984 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate, Libertarianism In One Lesson
Post subject: Re: Zeitgeist Part 1 & the Supportive Evidence
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:39 am
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* Aug 2nd, 2010 update
New sourcebook guide Zeitgeist part 1
Peter Joseph compiled the transcript and sources previously listed on his transcript page. He numbered the transcript and sent the ZG1 part of the draft to Acharya, who reworked it and substantially expanded upon it providing more images and source citations. Which included many new highly respected and credentialed scholarly sources commenting on the primary sources, among other new references. These new scholarly sources render all of the anti-Zeitgeist part 1 videos and reviews etc obsolete. The anti-ZGers and other critics will need to start all over.
There are over 150 sources cited, in nearly 350 footnotes just in the ZG1 section alone - in fact, nearly half of the Sourcebook is discussing ZG1 at 100/106 pages out of 220 for the full version covering parts 2 and 3. Acharya only worked on ZG1.
"...This effort includes much new source material drawn from primary sources as well the works from credentialed authorities in a variety of relevant subjects. Indeed, I have strived to include the best and most thorough, scholarly and modern sources wherever possible, with the result that many authorities cited here possess credentials from respected institutes of higher learning, and their publishers are some of the most scholarly in English (and other languages), such as:
E.J. Brill Peeters Kegan Paul Oxford University/Clarendon Press Princeton University Press Cambridge University Press Cornell University Press Yale University Press University of Chicago Press University of Pennsylvania Press University of Wisconsin Press Johns Hopkins Press Harcourt, Brace & Co. MacMillan & Co., etc.
This Sourcebook thus provides relevant primary-source material and citations from respectable and credentialed authorities, along with germane images to support the first part of ZG’s contentions. There are over 150 sources cited in this Sourcebook, in nearly 350 footnotes...."
* Those who really know what academia is will recognize the list above as the best of the best respected institutes of higher learning. Hand-waving dismissals will not suffice.
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