stahrwe wrote:
I don't care what letters Price has after his name, the group he participates in votes to remove material sections of the Bible to such an extent the the resulting document is not the Bible. Therefore, he is not a Bible scholar.
Your opinion is irrelevant, and I don't care what you have to say on the subject, frankly. Dr. Robert Price is a Bible scholar. You, however, are not. You only further demonstrate your own biases by declaring he is not a biblical scholar simply because Dr. Price does not agree with you.
stahrwe wrote:
As for the Druid issue, I don't care if Massey ran for it or not, or if he practiced the rituals, for him, or you to maintain that he wasn't a Druid when he was the head guy, symbolic or not, is just plain silly.
What is "silly" is your belief that anyone cares about your uninformed and ignorant opinions of Massey or anyone else. Regardless of what Massey did in his personal life, what he has written about Egyptian religion and mythology was peer-reviewed by some of the best scholars of the day. Your distraction fallacies will never change that fact, so stop wasting our time here. You yourself belong to a simpleminded cult that believes the God of the cosmos came to earth through the womb of a 12-year-old Jewish virgin girl - nothing Massey could have believed in could be as ridiculous as that. So, stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.
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"A misconception about Massey's religious beliefs stems from his connection with the Most Ancient Order of Druids to which he was elected Chosen Chief, an honorary position that he held from 1880 until 1906.
The position might have involved some minor administrative duties, but it required no formal membership. To Massey, at least, it was not a religion and did not involve forms of initiation, ceremonial dress or attendance at active meetings at megalithic sites; indeed, Massey did not believe in such pagan ceremony and made his interest in the Druids plain...
"I cannot join in the new masquerade and simulation of ancient mysteries manufactured in our time by Theosophists, Hermeneutists, pseudo-Esoterics, and Occultists of various orders, howsoever profound their pretensions. The very essence of all such mysteries as are got up from the refuse leavings of the past is pretence, imposition, and imposture. The only interest I take in the ancient mysteries is in ascertaining how they originated, in verifying their alleged phenomena, in knowing what they meant, on purpose to publish the knowledge as soon and as widely as possible."
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Gerald Masseystahrwe wrote:
I have yet to see any specific quote from a GM contemporary Egyptologist who specifically states that Massey is right. Massey had years of lectures he made promoting his ideas but they were never accepted. Your manufactured outrage and my low IQ notwithstanding; Just show me a quote.
What you continually fail to understand, stahrwe, is that Massey had MANY ideas, the bulk of which came from Egyptologists themselves, whose works he cited. You still haven't studied Massey or his sources, so please don't pretend to have the moral upper hand here. When you have proved that you know anything about Massey's work besides idiotic gossip, then we might be interested in something you have to say.
What part of the following did you not understand? Since you yourself have tried to indict Massey by saying that his work was well known at the time, do you think that he could have lied about the following, without being caught by obsessive critics like yourself?
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In the "Introduction" to his book The Natural Genesis, Gerald Massey writes:
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The German Egyptologist, Herr Pietschmann…reviewed the "Book of the Beginnings"... The writer has taken the precaution all through of getting his fundamental facts in Egyptology verified by one of the foremost of living authorities, Dr. Samuel Birch, to whom he returns his heartiest acknowledgements. (Massey, NG, viii)
Dr. Richard Pietschmann was a professor of Egyptology at the University of Göttingen, an impressive "peer reviewer" for one of Massey's early works on Egypt. By verifying his "fundamental facts" with Birch, Massey appears to be saying that his work was also reviewed by Birch, with whom he enjoyed a personal relationship expressed in his letters. Indeed, following this statement in The Natural Genesis, in his "Retort" to various attacks he endured, Massey remarked:
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As I also say in my preface [to The Natural Genesis] I took the precaution of consulting Dr. Samuel Birch for many years after he had offered, in his own words, to "keep me straight" as to my facts, obtainable from Egyptian records. He answered my questions, gave me his advice, discussed variant renderings, read whatever proofs I sent him, and corrected me where he saw I was wrong. (Massey, Gerald Massey's Lectures, 251)
It is evident from these remarks that a significant portion of Massey's work was "peer reviewed" by the eminent Dr. Samuel Birch, a remarkable development that should be factored into the assessment of Massey’s work.
The
full quote may be found on page two of this very thread in case you forgot. It's also in the article,
Who Is Gerald Massey?, which is the subject of this thread you
STILL have not read. It's also just a short excerpt from the book,
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection, which you also have never read.
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