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You know, I feel bad for Acharya when she comes on a talk show and hardly gets a chance to speak. Mr. Long sounded very emotionally attached to his beliefs. Nor did she say anything offensive. To find the absurdities in Christianity you need only to read the bible. He would have found the same passages absurd.

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LOL he just called one of Zeitgeist's claims "absurd". What a silly gus.

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Spot-on Leroy!

If anybody recorded that PLEASE share ... or maybe they'll archive it ...

"The Sacred Division"
http://www.para-x.com/sacred.html

Acharya was clearly set-up - Bishop James Long only wanted her on the show so he could attack her. He didn't mention any of her works or websites to listeners at all, did he? Long didn't even allow Frances Etienne to get a word in.

Bishop James Long has learned a valuable lesson today - if you're going to go after Acharya you better know what you're talking about. I guess Bishop James Long wasn't prepared for Acharya's can-o-whoop-ass - she told it like it was.

Here's one persons review I just found at the Supercon yahoo group -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/supercons ... sage/50042




Full Version
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 1170940883

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I thought the man was very arrogant and juvenile. He definitely was not liberal nor was he funny. He wasn't long on temperment either- more like short. I also don't believe the close-minded man learned anything, esp with how he continued to dog Acharya by butchering name, cursing, etc etc, determined to show he was right and Acharya was wrong. He didn't show anything but his ass though. Too bad he didn't learn anything though.

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Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison

I missed it. And I cannot find the link to the podcast.

Anyway, Acharya should fight and take every opportunity to get her ideas out.

She remembers me of another heroine of our times, Judith Rich Harris. The field is different, psychology, but she too revolutionized the field with her books about Nature and Nurture. Initially people where dismissive, but then people started talk about her books with growing interests, and her husband put on a web site where he was constantly updating a list with all the references to interviews or reviews/discussion about her works:

http://home.att.net/~xchar/tna/

This helped people to realize that almost in every occasion people were forced to admit that Judith Rich Harris was right and the evidence was overwhelming. Acharya should do the same IMHO.

Here is a link to the entire audio interview...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7067424531170940883

thanks leroy for the audio

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No problem. Thanks to Acharya for going on the show. I'm actually quite disappointed in Bishop Long's behavior for acting the way he did. He is unfortunately bound by intellectual materialism and doesn't want to hear anything new. That attitude is unscientific and disgusting.

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I went through the radio show to help mark spots. The Bishop really crosses the line after they hang-up on Acharya. Maybe they should be reported.

- 7:50 "But myth doesn't necessarily mean that it's true ... When you're talking about myth you're talking about the possibility of non-existence or non-truth"

- 8:37 "If I had children I would tell them that the sun is a ball of gas...it's not a being that thinks"

- 9:42 "I would say that [the Egyptians] are wrong"

- 10:21 "Just because [the Egyptians] thought at that time it was the appropriate thing to do doesn't make it the truth"

- 13:50 "My argument is that the sun is not a deity...just because someone believes something it doesn't make it true"

- 14:05 "We could take the argument that the Egyptians believed the sun was a deity & that all things come from it & I would argue that - No, scientists now say that the sun is a dying star"

- 14:18 Acharya responds "I don't really engage in judging the Egyptians & dismissing their entire culture by whether or not they were correct in their perception of reality ... I appreciate the beauty of what they created ... & not be culturally biased...

- 14:40 "I would never do that - I'm not implying that the Egyptian culture is wrong & we need to disregard it"

- 22:45 I saw your videos

to hate

23:48 Acharya "If anything Christ would symbolize something kind & loving but there's a problem with that too because that's not exactly what we find in the NT either..."

25:13 Acharya "The word is "Miso" & it does mean to hate in the ancient Greek text"

27:10 "I find all human culture interesting ...I don't raise this up as sacred & that not... sacred meal in Greece, in Egypt"

- Says he has Satanist friends

- at 33:30 he says he would argue against fundamentalists

- 34 he hates Deut.

- 39 "the Romans were killing Christians"

- 43 disagreement begins

- 45 Horus = Hitler

- 51 virgin

- 52:05 Dec 25th

- 52:22 "There's no proof that he wasn't born ... the proof is on your end to prove that he wasn't born"

- 52:30 Acharya "I'm not the one making absurd claims - I'm not claiming a Jewish guy was the son of god who was raising people from the dead..."

- 52:43 "I don't think that's absurd...now see that's what I find offensive"

- 52:52 "When you say 'absurd' that's what I find offensive because I haven't said that what you believe is absurd but yet you've taken the liberty to say my beliefs are absurd"

- the hang-up 54:07

- 54:10 "I find this woman repulsive. I find her absurd"

- 55 "We don't have a virgin mother having sex w/ a dead body"

- 55:13 "these people"

- 56:30 "Zeitgeist"

- 56:52 "I never once said that your arguments or your beliefs are absurd ...

- 57:15 "Acharya, your last words when you die are going to be, oh god"

- 57:25 "I don't worship the sun, a gas ball"

- 58:35 "the true story of Mithra"

- 1:00 "that's why I hung-up on her"

- 1;08 "I'm so angry...Don't call my religious views absurd"

- 1;09:22 "Not because of some astrology CRAP"

- 1;11;39 "I'm so ticked-off right now"

- 1:14:34 "And for the people who created this damn Zeitgeist bullshit video..."

- 1:19:45 "Let me just say to you people ... Acharya & Zeitgeist & whoever the hell is involved in this movie... don't you ever come to me & spill that kind of shit in my face because I will smack the spit out of your mouth."

- 1;20;22 "So don't you sit there & talk crap cause you want to sell a book or because you want to sell a movie...so you sons a bitches SHUT YOUR MOUTH"

- 1;21;20 "And don't worship the sun because it's up your ASS"

- 1;22;37 "I swear to god, if you do it god is going to smite you down...Every American should kick your ass up & down the street"

- 1;25:00 "We just destroyed & debunked all the ridiculous theories of mythos & mythical creatures & all that other nonsense about Christianity stealing all these ya know it just & the of course that movie what is it called? um, Zeitgeist & other ridiculous stuff about how all these conspiracy theories just, ya know..."

The Anti-Zeitgeist and Anti-Acharya rant continues through to the 1;30. Don't waste your time after that.

No, Bishop James Long is not biased, bigoted or a fundamentalist - keep moving along nothing to see here. Pay no attention to the ranting lunatic.

Let them know how you feel about their treatment of Acharya -
EMAIL: (show@paranormalclergy.com)

Sacred Division Forum:
(http://para-xforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=219.0)

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Such language. Very becoming of a bishop. NOT! I was appauled by this man and he debunked nothing. All he did was spew hate and foul language. He didn't say anything worth listening to and he thinks he said something important. PLEASE! He said absolutely nothing except curses, spewed hatred, and butchered Acharya's name several times. He doesn't know a damn thing of what he is talking about and he can't even think for himself to see what his religion really is.

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Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison

It's been a long time since I've posted in here. Well, I just started feeling somewhat better, but not so much today.

In any event, here's that violent kook's website:

(http://www.paranormalclergy.com/usocc.html)

I love the "diversity" baloney. (In his deranged radio rant, he raged about "respecting women," right after he had trashed me.)

I haven't heard such a deranged Catholic ranter since I encountered a Catholic priest at a Whole Life Expo many years ago who thought it would be a good idea to "bring back witch burnings."

Catholics aren't usually as demented these days. It's the fundies nutters most of the time. Seems like this guy is possessed by the demons he's exorcised out of others.

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Why suffer from Egyptoparallelophobia, when you can read Christ in Egypt? Try it - you'll like it:

He probably is.

Oh, he is the old Catholic Church. Before the most recent whatchamacallit II. Or is it III?

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Mriana

Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison

Let them know how you feel about their treatment of Acharya -
EMAIL: (show@paranormalclergy.com)

Sacred Division Forum:
(http://para-xforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=219.0)

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2013 Astrotheology Calendar
The Mythicist Position
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection
Stellar House Publishing at Youtube

Will do, in the morning. Thanks Freethinka.

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Mriana

Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison

I noticed that someone made this comment at the Sacred Division forum yesterday:

I just happen to check the forum today and they REMOVED it - I suspected it would be removed.

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The Mythicist Position
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection
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OK I emailed them. Not only that, I wrote my views and sent them to a particular site. IF it is posted on that site, I'll everyone know.

Here's what I wrote to the horrid bishop et al:



I don't think they will get past the first paragraph, so my saying that I have respect for some ministers and am not completely hateful to the religious, proably won't even be read. So, it doesn't matter that I did not say "but I have not attended for six years now, unlike Bob Price". I think the small local humanist group has seen more of me in that six years.

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Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison