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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:58 pm 
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I read the NOAA article and they say July at 76.9 degrees was "the hottest month ever observed for the contiguous United States". Yet according to the NOAA, July 1936 averaged 77.4 degrees. Something smells fishy...

I understand you won't read anything written by non-believers (lets call them climate atheists), or take anything they say seriously unless they agree with your conclusions ahead of time, so I won't bother linking to the article that exposes this possibly fraudulent blunder on the part of the NOAA.

Despite high US temperatures, world temperatures continue to plateau. While Robert refuses to even acknowledge the plateau, the Met office does acknowledge it and has revised it's predictions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2013/01/met-office-scale-back-global-w.shtml
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In it, the Met Office explained that the levelling off of global temperatures that we were experiencing can be expected at time periods of a decade or less, because of the computer models internal climate variability.

But intriguingly, the research ruled out zero trends for time periods of 15 years or more.

The new projection, if correct, would mean there will have been little additional warming for two decades despite rising greenhouse gases.

It's bound to raise questions about the robustness and reliability of computer simulations that governments around the world are using in order to determine policies aimed at combating global warming.

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I understand you won't read anything written by non-believers (lets call them climate atheists), or take anything they say seriously unless they agree with your conclusions ahead of time, so I won't bother linking to the article that exposes this possibly fraudulent blunder on the part of the NOAA.

Categorically false. I actually went to 'Watt's up' earlier to see what they had to say and they had a blog on it but, nothing worth posting - just the same anti-climate change bigotry and dire need to be 'Dr. Contrarian' BEFORE they even understand what all is really going on regarding all of the information. I have no interest in the juvenile back and forth - I'm only interested in the facts. I'm willing to wait before jumping to conclusions regarding this recent news.

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Freethinkaluva22 wrote:
...just the same anti-climate change bigotry and dire need to be 'Dr. Contrarian' BEFORE they even understand what all is really going on regarding all of the information.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/06/does-noaas-national-climatic-data-center-ncdc-keep-two-separate-sets-of-climate-books-for-the-usa/

I see all kinds of qualifying statements in that article; the headline includes a question mark fer chrissake. His explanation for the discrepancy even gets the NOAA off the hook! "It’s a technology gap" he says. Yup, pure mindless bigotry. :roll:

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The real scandal brewing is that they changed the 1936 numbers to ensure that July 2012 is still the hottest month on record. I'd like to hear an explanation for that.

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It just all comes off as a bunch of obnoxious juveniles going off on an anti-climate change rant over every little thing. Don't care - not interested. All we're doing is as I did previously, posting news - from real climate scientists. I didn't even make a comment. It's like you're just looking for someone to argue with - what you're doing is bizarre. Feel free to start your own anti-climate change thread and post your anti-climate rants there. Going off saying crazy stuff like the below is not necessary and uncalled for:

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I understand you won't read anything written by non-believers (lets call them climate atheists), or take anything they say seriously unless they agree with your conclusions ahead of time, so I won't bother linking to the article that exposes this possibly fraudulent blunder on the part of the NOAA.

My entire previous post:

2012 Hottest Year On Record For Lower 48 States, NOAA Confirms

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 was the hottest year on record over the last 118 years since records started being kept in 1895.

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Australia’s weather is so hot, new colors added to weather map

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:29 pm 
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Robert refuses to even acknowledge the plateau

Not true. There is an apparent plateau while land surface temperatures zag in preparation for their next big zig. The temperature increase during the 'plateau' is still real, and is statistically significant at the 10% level.

What I refuse to acknowledge is twisted exaggerations of the data, such as the suggestion "it has not warmed since 1997". Increased heat in the oceans continues to accumulate at the rate of two Hiroshima bombs per second. The basic physics says this heat has to go somewhere, eventually into the atmosphere.

Why James V and others like him would be so complacent about this primary global problem is a strange question in psychology, somewhat like the question why people believe religious fairy stories despite evidence.

As FTL mentioned, Australia had its hottest day on record yesterday. Expect more such records to be broken regularly.


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Keystone XL Stirs Montana Farmer's Climate Change And Crop Concerns

"Last year proved too dry. The year before -- too wet. For Wade Sikorski of Fallon County, Mont., the years in which the weather is just right to grow food on his ranch seem to be increasingly few and far between.

"We go from one extreme to another," said Sikorski. "With either extreme, I can't produce anything."

Sikorski sees climate change as a culprit, and the Keystone XL pipeline -- which is slated to run within a couple miles of his ranch -- as likely to make matters worse.

"There are a lot of safety issues with the pipeline itself. It could rupture and leak as it crosses farms and ranches," he said. "But my main issue is climate change."

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Climate Change Is Already Here, Says Massive Government Report

"Climate change, once considered an issue for a distant future, has moved firmly into the present," the report says in its introduction. The full report, at more than 800 pages, is the most comprehensive look at the effects of climate change in the U.S. to date, according to its authors. (Even the "highlights" document provided to reporters the day before the release weighed in at 137 pages). The report includes regional and sectoral breakdowns of current and anticipated impacts, which have implications for infrastructure, agriculture, human health, and access to water.

The report notes that American society and its infrastructure were built for the past climate -- not the future. It highlights examples of the kinds of changes that state and local governments can make to become more resilient. One of the main takeaways, said David Wolfe, a professor of plant and soil ecology at Cornell University and a coauthor of the chapter on the Northeast, is that "you don't want to look at the weather records of yesteryear to determine how to set up your infrastructure."

This report, said Wolfe, signals that the country is "beginning to move beyond the debate about whether climate change is real or not, and really getting down to rolling up our sleeves" and addressing it.

A 60-person advisory committee comprised of government, private and academic representatives oversaw the assessment, which took four years and involved more than 300 scientists, engineers, and technical experts.

In an appearance at the White House press briefing on Monday, White House senior counselor John Podesta said the updated assessment provides "practical, usable knowledge" for state and local decision-makers as they prepare for climate impacts and is the "most authoritative and comprehensive" to date.

The reports are supposed to be issued at least every four years under the Global Change Research Act of 1990, and are meant to analyze "the effects of global change on the natural environment, agriculture, energy production and use, land and water resources, transportation, human health and welfare, human social systems, and biological diversity." The reports are to be presented to the president and Congress.

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http://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science/pacific-trade-winds-stall-global-surface-warming-now

This is a good scientific explanation of the physics of the plateau in surface temperature, but the summary does not explain how likely or soon or large a reversal of this wind-driven increase of ocean heat deposition may be.

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Heat stored in the western Pacific Ocean, due to an unprecedented strengthening of the equatorial trade winds, appears to be largely responsible for the hiatus in surface warming observed over the past 13 years.

New research published today in the journal Nature Climate Change indicates that the dramatic acceleration in winds has invigorated the circulation of the Pacific Ocean, causing more heat to be taken out of the atmosphere and transferred into the subsurface ocean, while bringing cooler waters to the surface.

“Scientists have long suspected that extra ocean heat uptake has slowed the rise of global average temperatures, but the mechanism behind the hiatus remained unclear," said Professor Matthew England, lead author of the study and a Chief Investigator at the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science at UNSW Australia.

“But the heat uptake is by no means permanent: when the trade wind strength returns to normal – as it inevitably will – our research suggests heat will quickly accumulate in the atmosphere. So global temperatures look set to rise rapidly out of the hiatus, returning to the levels projected within as little as a decade."

The strengthening of the Pacific trade winds began during the 1990s and continues today. Previously, no climate models have incorporated a trade wind strengthening of the magnitude observed, and these models failed to capture the hiatus in warming. Once the trade winds were added by the researchers, the global average temperatures very closely resembled the observations during the hiatus.

“The winds lead to extra ocean heat uptake, which stalled warming of the atmosphere. Accounting for this wind intensification in model projections produces a hiatus in global warming that is in striking agreement with observations,” Professor England said.

“Unfortunately, however, when the hiatus ends, global warming looks set to be rapid."

The impact of the trade winds on global average temperatures is caused by the winds forcing heat to accumulate below the surface of the Western Pacific Ocean.

“This pumping of heat into the ocean is not very deep, however, and once the winds abate, heat is returned rapidly to the atmosphere,” Professor England said.

“Climate scientists have long understood that global average temperatures don't rise in a continual upward trajectory, instead warming in a series of abrupt steps in between periods with more-or-less steady temperatures. Our work helps explain how this occurs," Professor England said.

“We should be very clear: the current hiatus offers no comfort – we are just seeing another pause in warming before the next inevitable rise in global temperatures.”


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The World Just Had Its Hottest June On Record

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The globe is on a hot streak, setting a heat record in June. That's after the world broke a record in May.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Monday that last month's average global temperature was 61.2 degrees, which is 1.3 degrees higher than the 20th century average. It beat 2010's old record by one-twentieth of a degree.

While one-twentieth of a degree doesn't sound like much, in temperature records it's like winning a horse race by several lengths, said NOAA climate monitoring chief Derek Arndt.

And that's only part of it. The world's oceans not only broke a monthly heat record at 62.7 degrees, but it was the hottest the oceans have been on record no matter what the month, Arndt said.

"We are living in the steroid era of the climate system," Arndt said.

Arndt said both the June and May records were driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans.

Heat records in June broke on every continent but Antarctica, especially in New Zealand, northern South America, Greenland, central Africa and southern Asia.

The United States had only its 33rd hottest June.

All 12 of the world's monthly heat records have been set after 1997, more than half in the last decade. All the global cold monthly records were set before 1917.

And with a likely El Nino this year — the warming of the tropical Pacific which influences the world's weather and increases global temperatures — it is starting to look like another extra warm year, said University of Arizona climate scientist Jonathan Overpeck.

The first six months of the year are the third warmest first six months on record, coming behind 2010 and 1998, according to NOAA

Global temperature records go back to 1880 and this is the 352nd hotter than average month in a row.

"This is what global warming looks like," Overpeck said in an email. "Not record hot everywhere all the time, but certainly a reflection that the odds of record hot are going up everywhere around the planet.""

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GOP Works to Defund Studies So They Can Deny Climate Change

"Rather than address or even face the impending issues surrounding climate change, the GOP has chosen instead to stick their fingers in their ears. Not only do they want to simply ignore the problem, but they are trying to make it difficult for the rest of us to even know that it exists.

Last week, the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, headed by Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), approved a bill that would slash at least $300 million from NASA's Earth-science budget. As Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) pointed out, "Earth science, of course, includes climate science." Rep. Smith claims that the White House's NASA budget request favored the Earth sciences "at the expense of the other science divisions and human and robotic space exploration." That actually makes perfect sense considering that the impending looming disaster might need to be examined a little more closely. You may very well want to increase funding into that area. It's like saying you're not going to put out a fire at a particular house because you want to keep the other ones moist.

Once again, by defunding NASA's Earth-science program, the GOP has taken willful ignorance one giant leap for mankind, into the stratosphere. This bill essentially ensures not only that climate studies be ignored but that potentially useful data won't even be collected....."

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