On a separate note here Nick, I was just watching "The Naked Truth" with J. Maxwell going over the biblical references to the changing of the "Ages".
There was a guy who went by "Mr. Bridger" from England who used to post here a while ago. He seemed pretty interested in astrotheology and turned me onto the work of Manly P. Hall. We had been going over the issue of Abraham as being a reference back to "Brahma". One thing that we never got around to discussing is that "Abraham" comes before Moses who comes before Jesus who tells his disciples to follow the Man bearing a pitcher of water.
Now in Zeitgeist and The Naked Truth, they go over how Moses to Jesus represents the age of the Ram moving along the procession of the equinoxes to the Age of Pisces the Fish. They also show how in luke Jesus informs his twelve disciples, the 12 signs of the zodiac, to follow Aquarius after the last passover in the age of Pisces. In other words, when the Sun makes it's last pass during the Age of Pisces the 12 signs are to follow the Sun into the new age of Aquarius.
What they don't talk about in these films is how "Abraham" represents the Hindu God "Brahma". We have "Brahma Bulls" grazing around in the pastures here in the US and abroad of course. Acharya talks about this issue of Abraham being a rendition of "Brahma" in her books and old Mr. Bridger left me a very informative link about the issue one time as well:
"The Persians also claim Ibrahim, i.e. Abraham, for their founder, as well as the Jews. Thus we see that according to all ancient history the Persians, the Jews, and the Arabians are descendants of Abraham.(p.85) ...We are told that Terah, the father of Abraham, originally came from an Eastern country called Ur, of the Chaldees or Culdees, to dwell in a district called Mesopotamia. Some time after he had dwelt there, Abraham, or Abram, or "Brahma", and his wife Sara or Sarai, or "Sara-iswati", left their father's family and came into Canaan. The identity of Abraham and Sara with "Brahma" and "Saraiswati" was first pointed out by the Jesuit missionaries." (Vol. I; p. 387.)
B) http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Brahma ... eknown.com
So it would appear that the age of the Bull (Abraham), turns into the Age of the Ram (Moses) which then turns into the Age of the Fish (Jesus) who openly speaks about the coming of the Age of Aquarius in the future as the CYCLE of the procession continues.
While considering Aquarius in it's various aspects, Mriana had once mentioned how John the baptist serves a roll as representing the sign of "Aquarius" in edition to the other roles he's serving in the myth. She post this a while back in some unrelated topic around here.
That got me thinking that during the procession of the equinoxes the signs of the zodiac are running in 'reverse' in comparison to the normal yearly cycle.
So Pisces comes BEFORE Aquarius during the procession of the equinoxes. but during the regular yearly cycle Aquarius would come BEFORE Pisces. It's just an issue of the yearly zodiac running clockwise and the processional Zodiac running counterclockwise.
Hmmm, that seems to suggest that during the procession of the equinoxes Pisces (Jesus) comes BEFORE Aquarius (John the baptist), but during the yearly cycle Aquarius (John the baptist) comes BEFORE Jesus.
So Jesus comes both BEFORE and AFTER John the baptist according to the astrotheology of the story. Isn't that what John is going on about in the first chapter?
1:15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, He (Pisces) who comes AFTER ME (Aquarius) has surpassed me because he (Pisces) was BEFORE ME (Aquarius)."
Pisces comes both before and after Aquarius according to a clockwise zodiac cycle and a counterclockwise zodiac cycle co-existing as one.
This is all comes off as pretty darn astrotheological.
_________________The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.The celestial Origins of Religious BeliefZG Part 1Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?