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Hall was saying that the sun was used as a symbol for the unknown cause of the suns power and energy, just as Acharya, Blavatsky, and all of the other quotes suggest as well. The point is that astrotheology is about the Sun and the stars being seen as the 'effects' of the underlying 'cause' that remains 'unseen'. The mystical understanding is a part of the astrotheology - not separate from it. Jesus does represent the Sun because both "Jesus" and the "Sun" are serving as the "medium" in these myths. Jesus and the sun are both representing an 'effect' that points to the underlying 'cause' of the universe and of all things. This is why Jesus IS the Sun personified as a human being in the mythology. Every 'effect' of the universe points back to it's unseen 'cause', which is essentially "transcendent" (unknown).

Here's a bunch of interviews about Gnosticism, some of which are with Acharya S. and go over the astrotheological roots of Gnosticism in great detail:

http://www.thegodabovegod.com/

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LOL, here's a live video on high speed of the "3 Kings" of Orion following Sirius on "Christmas" 2007 pointing to the SUNRISE... I love it.

"Orion constellation"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-d_6A6t29s

Any questions?

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I'm going to have to drop that u-tube link in a few different forums. 8)

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Yeah. What did it say in German? Nein sprechen sie Deutsch. :( Because of that, I think I'm lost.

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My initial reaction is to fight fire with fire lol that got me banned from Icke's forums of all places. Simply because I was defending AS and the Christians there were foaming at the mouth.


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Yep, the Icke forum is moderated by a fundy Christian, apparently. Or at least anti-ZG1 and anti-Acharya.

All I've seen over there is AS getting trashed, smeared & libeled but, if anyone tries to set the record straight they get banned. Which makes no sense at all because Icke mentions here favorably in his own books. In fact, Icke & his wife are friends with Acharya.

We wouldn't tolerate David Icke, or anyone else, to be smeared or libeled here but, it seems very few ever return the favor.

But, this thread has nothing to do with Icke so I'll probably move these posts to the appropriate thread.

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In fact, Icke & his wife are friends with Acharya.

I have been friendly with both of them when I was banned AS contacted David on my behalf and he said they banned me for swearing fair enough but the Christian who swore at me was not banned.
I have no real beef with Icke I think he has woken many people up to the deception I just dislike the hypocrisy of it all.


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"he said they banned me for swearing fair enough but the Christian who swore at me was not banned.... I have no real beef with Icke I think he has woken many people up to the deception I just dislike the hypocrisy of it all."

That's right!!! Disgusting isn't it?

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The Early Knowledge of the Precession of the Equinoxes

Here is an interesting comment from a fascinating article by Walter O. Moeller in "Marks, Names and Numbers" (Hommages a Maarten J. Vermaseren, v. 1, Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1978; pp. 819-20):

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...In their book Hamlet's Mill (Boston, 1969), Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend have taken the position that the Precession [of the Equinoxes] was known at its scientifically accurate rate in the late Neolithic period (ca 4,000 B.C.)—that is, the world did not have to wait for Hipparchus to discover the phenomenon and for Newton to determine the exact length of the Great Year. Although one cannot accept their claim that the Precession is the main source of world myth, it can be admitted that some myth may have developed from its knowledge. Without a doubt, however, the early knowledge of the accurate length of the Great Year largely explains the persistence of certain numbers in the ancient traditions. This is especially true of 2,160, which is the number of years needed for the equinox to pass through one constellation of the zodiac. That is, 2,160 years is one zodiacal age.

Here and in Hamlet's Mill we can see strong evidence that the precession was known ages before its purported "discovery" by Hipparchus, as I also contended in Christ Con and elsewhere, providing the evidence from Santillana and Dechend, et al. I maintain that the myths themselves - such as the prevalence during the Age of Taurus of the bull motif - demonstrate this fact. Moeller's numerological studies add much to this thesis.

Moreover, I agree with Moeller's claim that some myth may have been based on the precession - a very significant amount, in fact - but that other factors were also at the basis of ancient astrotheology, including, of course, the sun. I presume Moeller would concur, since he discusses solar symbolism as predicated upon much numerological representation in antiquity.

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