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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:45 am 
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Astrotheology Flyers & Brochures

Hey kids,

I just had a Jehovah's witness come to the door with their flyer. It made me realize how badly we need a flyer for several things to be ready to go in a moments notice for situations like this.

Lets create an assortment of one page flyers that can be printed on both sides to be given out. How about one that covers Christmas & Easter so it can be given out at those times of the year.

What type of flyer do you think would be helpful to gain interest in Acharya's work on astrotheology?

Feel free to create one & share it here. There are some free flyer & brochure makers out there online...

http://www.mybrochuremaker.com

http://www.printfree.com/Signs_Custom/C ... stomIn.htm

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I was recently thinking that it would be funny to make a list of all of the negative verses in the new testament where Jesus is speaking in terms of "Do not think that I come to bring peace on earth...". A collection of all the sayings that most people aren't familar with. :lol:

Another idea I had a while back was to make up a flyer about the Jehovah's Witness to hand out to them when they come to the door. Sort of throw one right back at them. I was thinking about something that informs the members about the true heritage of the group and the various false predictions about the second coming of Christ that they've made over the years.

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I've had a few more visits since I first posted this. We've got to have something to be able to print quickly and hand out to the folks who come to our doors.

I'm organizing a little something now that I'll put up as a 1 page front & back PDFfile so folks may easily print it and give it out. It'll just be basic info with sources for further reading of Acharya's work. It's best to cite only her because nobody else stands up for and defends their work on the topic of astrotheology like Acharya does. Others hardly make any efforts at all. The quality of Acharya's efforts are head & shoulders above everybody else.

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Sounds good. It would be funny to hand informative literature right back at the door to door Christians (cults).

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So the Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in Christmas, Easter or the cross and consider them pagan holidays & symbols - which they are.

I'm skimming my handy "What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

http://www.watchtower.org/e/kt/article_01.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNffSUdXb-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Z84VP3 ... re=related

http://jesusisyhwh.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html

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The poor guy from the u-tube video who had been studying the Watch Tower organization very carefully and finding pagan symbols all around probably thinks that the pagan symbols are evil and that there's some pure form of the bible that doesn't have any paganism in it.

That's one issue that needs to be clarified for people when they're being exposed to the paganism in their particular Christian branch. The paganism of the creation story in Genesis right on through to the paganism in the Christ story and concluding with the paganism in the book of Revelation and everything in between. The point that the bible writers spoke out against paganism continually while using pagan concepts at the very same time needs to be made in order to help people see through to the core of the issue. This poor JW member is stuck thinking that his church is pagan and wrong but some other Christian church out there may be non-pagan, and therefore "God's Truth".

If the poor guy was shown how the original biblical writers were doing the exact same thing that the Watch Tower publications are doing right now, both using and condemning paganism, then he may begin to see that the whole notion of rejecting pagan symbolism as satanic and demonic is actually moot. If it's demonic then the entire structure of the bible from Genesis to Revelation is demonic and there is no other bible or branch of Christianity to turn to. They need to be shown that one must leave all of the sacred scriptures of the world behind, all ideas about Gods, heavens, and hells, because scholarship has shown that all of those ideas originate with pagan mythology and symbolism. It's funny, because that would lead to the conclusion that the only non-demonic people in the world are the ATHEISTS - those who toss aside all mythology and Gods and pay no mind to any of it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's funny, but it's the logical conclusion to the problem of getting rid of pagan symbolism in religious practice. All monotheists, pantheists, polytheists, etc. etc. have a core basis in pagan astrotheological symbolism and belief. Wouldn't that be funny if the far religious right, the ones pressing so hard to get rid of all paganism, were eventually forced to become Atheists because the very concept of God, any God, from any given religion traces back to a pagan origin. There's only one way out of pagan symbolism and that's hard nose atheism.

Athesim, the final reformation. :shock:

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I'm working on more important projects right now but wanted to post what I have of this thus far. I was just going to make a 1 page flyer that would be printed on both sides. I haven't had time to finish it.

Here's what I have so far:

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Here's a fun quiz. Can you figure out who I'm talking about?

* His birth was celebrated on December 25th (or the winter solstice) in a manger.
* He was of royal descent, and his mother was the “Great virgin."
* His birth was announced by a star in the East and attended by three “wise men.”
* He was given gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
* He had 12 companions, helpers or disciples.
* He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised Osiris from the dead.
* He battled with or was tempted by the “evil one.”
* He was the "Light of the World."
* It is said that "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him."
* He is the "Savior of mankind."
* He wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo.
* He "walks on water."
* He was “crucified” between two “thieves.”
* He was buried for three days in a tomb or cave and resurrected.
* He was to reign for one thousand years.

It sounds like Jesus Christ doesn't it? It's actually Horus and/or Osiris of Egypt 2,000 years before Christianity. The ancient Egyptians believed that as long as the sun rose everyday there'd always be life on earth. Without the sun there'd be no life on earth as we know it. So the sun became the representation for everlasting life. There are many examples of sun gods throughout history thousands of years before the common era (BCE). It's called solar mythology or astrotheology - "Theology founded on observation or knowledge of the celestial bodies" ... such as the sun, moon, planets, stars, constellations etc.

Celebrations such as Christmas and Easter are elements to the sun god story as they are simply attributes based on natural phenomena due to the solstices and equinoxes symbolized by a cross created by the sun and the earths tilt giving us all 4 seasons of the year.

Christmas:

Long before "Christmas" was ever created the ancients noticed that the sun seemed to stop moving for 3 days at the winter solstice. "Solstice" in Latin means "sun stands still". So, the ancients said the sun was buried in a tomb or cave for those 3 days. At which point the 3 stars of Orion's Belt known as the "Three Kings" are in alignment with Sirius "the star in the East" and all point to the place where the sun will rise in the morning on December 25th as the sun finally moves again and changes direction heading north. This is when the ancients said the sun god had been born, re-born or resurrected as the sun begins its journey further north again which meant that spring was on its way. This has been considered the birthday or resurrection day of the sun god for at least 5,000 years.


Easter:

"Rather than being a "Christian" holiday, Easter celebrations date back into remotest antiquity and are found around the world, as the blossoming of spring did not escape the notice of the ancients, who revered this life-renewing time of the year, when winter had passed and the sun was "born again." The "Pagan" Easter is also the Passover, and Jesus Christ represents not only the sun but also the Passover Lamb ritually sacrificed every year by a number of cultures, including the Egyptians, possibly as early as 4,000 years ago and continuing to this day in some places.

Easter is "Pessach" in Hebrew, "Pascha" in Greek, "Pachons" in Latin and "Pa-Khonsu" in Egyptian, "Khonsu" being an epithet for the sun god Horus. In Anglo-Saxon, Easter or Eostre is goddess of the dawn, corresponding to Ishtar, Astarte, Astoreth and Isis. The word "Easter" shares the same root with "east" and "eastern," the direction of the rising sun."

Christ's birth, death and resurrection are all based on astrotheology.


I'd planned on addressing the resurrection and other gods with similar attributes. I was also going to make sure that these links were included for further reading.

Easter: Christian or Pagan?
http://www.truthbeknown.com/easter.htm

The Christmas Hoax: Jesus is NOT the "Reason for the Season"
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/christmas.html

Astrotheology of the Ancients
http://www.truthbeknown.com/astrotheology.html

http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com

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I would suggest a tiny clarification:

Rather than 'being born on the 25th Dec' say, his birth 'is celebrated on 25th Dec', as we always get the '25th Dec is not in the Bible' reply and then you have to go on to explain yet again...blah blah blah...

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Ah, good call - I made the necessary adjustment. 8)

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I've had a few more visits since I first posted this. We've got to have something to be able to print quickly and hand out to the folks who come to our doors.

I'm organizing a little something now that I'll put up as a 1 page front & back PDFfile so folks may easily print it and give it out. It'll just be basic info with sources for further reading of Acharya's work. It's best to cite only her because nobody else stands up for and defends their work on the topic of astrotheology like Acharya does. Others hardly make any efforts at all. The quality of Acharya's efforts are head & shoulders above everybody else.



try this i saved it from the superconciousnes site.


I have gotten emails recently asking me how to get rid of Jehovah's Witness, so they will not return. So I am making a serious reply.

The worst mistake you can make is to buy a book or magazine from them, thinking that will satisfy them and they will go away. Wrong. It ensures they will return. Soon, and OFTEN.
Do not purchase anything from them. If you subscribe to one of their magazines, each issue will be hand-delivered by a JW.

One can always put a sign on the door that says "No Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons" and SOME JW's will respect your wish, others will not.

You can ask who it is at the door without opening it, and simply refuse to respond, or tell them to go away. However, another set of JW's, will inevitably return.

I will now give you the Magic Words that will get rid of JW's once and for all. If you want this to work, you must memorize these magic words, or have them written down and handy to recite (convincingly) when a JW rings your doorbell.

Use these EXACT words!

"I was in the Truth for awhile, but the Society disfellowshipped me a few years ago, and no way do I want to be reinstated!"

By reciting these magic words, you have done several things:

You have identified yourself as a former JW. So they know you know what they are really about. At least they think you know, even though you don't know, you know?

You have identified yourself as a disfellowshipped JW. This means, to them, you are demon-possessed (I'm not kidding) and they cannot talk to you at all, ever, period. They must avoid you like the Plague or Jehovah will punish them terribly!

You have caused them to make a Magic Notation on the "Territory Card" they are carrying, a notation that has your address and the all-important fact that you are disfellowshipped and have no wish to be reinstated. You see, all Kingdom Halls have a certain territory assigned to them that they must cover, regularly and systematically, in their door to door work. The Territory Card they make a notation about you on will be used by any other JW that comes to your home. He or she will see the notation that you are disfellowshipped (and are therefore demon-possessed), and will avoid you.

No JW ever goes to a house they are not assigned to go to by the Watchtower Society. So ANY JW in your area WILL have that Magic Territory Card with them, and WILL see the notation. No JW will want to ensure Jehovah's wrath upon them by talking to you, so they will stay away from your home. Permanently.

If you move, this procedure will have to be repeated!

This does not work on Mormons. However, ALL Mormons will RESPECT your wishes if you put a sign on your door that says "No Mormons Please."

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Thanks Nathan!

That sounds like a very good way of getting the job done.

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I've never had a problem in the past telling JW's and Mormons that I'm not interested. My problem now is that at first I had a young hottie and a lady come to the door who was fun to talk to and I was just trying to be NICE. There are always two JW's and I never let them inside. We have a brief discussion then they give me their newest pamphlet and then they leave. Then, they come back about every month or two and do it all over again.

I actually read what they give me ... to use for A's work however appropriate or necessary. They tend to remind me of certain scriptures that have some astrotheological connection or other that is helpful i.e. like articles about Christmas, Easter or other topics.

I'm not out to insult them or offend them - I actually would like to win them over to our side. It's not likely but, same as everybody else, I feel all theists (& atheists etc) should have access to information about astrotheology, mythology etc because for example it neutralizes the religious 'end times' nonsense.

I'd like to create a 1 page flyer that can be printed quickly while they're standing at the door customized towards the JW's, Mormons, Evangelicals and whoever else is 'spreading the gospel' according to the great commission - which is a great fraud.

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All of this massive brain storming I've been doing with Tulip points in that general direction.

At some point, after having everything well in order, I should be able to make up a simple pamphlet about the Bible talking about the ages of Taurus, Aries, Pisces, and Aquarius and how the "second coming" motif is nothing more than an astrological reference to the future coming of the "second age" of the new Great Year. That pretty much exposes the Gospels stories and Revelation thoroughly. The problem is figuring out how to condense a massive amount of information into an easy to read and understand pamphlet. Visual diagrams are very necessary in order to illustrate the Great Year cycle with it's associated rising and falling themes and how the four ages given in the Bible fit in.

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Yeah, that's the problem, trying to condense everything down to just one page front & back. That's why I thought something simple & easy to understand would be good. Something that just makes them curious for more.

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