DON'T protect religion from defamation

Brenton · **Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:26 pm

Thought some of you would appreciate this article:

"For religious liberty to exist, it is an absolute requirement that individuals be able to think and speak as they see fit, without threat of surveillance or sanctions for their views on an organisation or idea..."

http://thezeitgeistmovement.wordpress.c ... efamation/

Freethinkaluva22 · **Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:29 pm

Excellent!

Thanks Brenton!

Acharya · **Joined:** Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:09 pm **Posts:** 1284

Hi Brenton -

I posted a comment there, but I don't know if it went through. It doesn't show up, and I didn't see any message saying it was waiting for moderation.

Here's what I wrote:

Thank you very much for posting this important essay and for mentioning me and my blog in it.

Like so many others, I have been blogging about the dangers of "political Islam," if you will, for several years. Also like so many others, I have had to deal with a strongly inculcated "leftist" perspective that is very badly informed on this issue and that has been handing away our freedoms to would-be interlopers who use our Western democracies and "bleeding hearts" against us.

It is good to see someone in the ZGM take a strong stance in favor of protecting our freedoms, especially free speech, which I and many others consider to be SACRED.

As American Founding Father Thomas Jefferson was reputed to have said, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

From history, we know what measures like this one are really about - domination, conquest and enslavement, pure and simple.

For more on this subject - with another Pat Condell video - see my blog post:

Free Speech is Sacred

Keep up the great work.

Acharya S/D.M. Murdock
TruthBeKnown.com
StellarHousePublishing.com
FreethoughtNation.com

Brenton · **Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:58 pm

It's posted. I had to approve it. Unfortunately until we're on private servers and so forth (sometime next year) we have to live with the limitations of the free wordpress.com hosting.

But while we're in this prototype stage it's better than nothing.

Thanks for the comment Acharya. It took me a week of underlining, highlighting and taking notes from print outs while travelling on the train to feel like I was ready to write this.

Freethinkaluva22 · **Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:30 pm

Well done Brenton!

Keep up the great work.

vega · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:59 am

Quote:

"We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent there will be no need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this Winston—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever."

Quote:

"Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death."

George Orwell - 1984

Freethinkaluva22 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:08 am

Here are a couple websites shared by others that recently caught my attention. This one has just been posted by Vega. It contains a list of documented censorship:

Censorship and Persecution in the Name of Islam
http://www.aina.org/news/20070108191217.htm

In the "How to Debate a Muslim" article, there is some language that reads:

"Muslims are really good when it comes to killing other muslims:
Staggering statistics of muslim on muslim violence:"

It includes compiled statistics since 1950 to about 2003. The grand total comes to about 85,000,000.

The link leads to this site, where it says: "Conflicts since 1950 with over 10,000 Fatalities":
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28394

After several years since 9-11, I'm still trying to understand how anybody could ever call Islam "a great religion" or "the religion of peace." :shock:

Acharya · **Joined:** Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:09 pm **Posts:** 1284

Truly a very ugly, brutal, vicious and violent cult.

I received the following comment on my blog post with Michael Savage's anti-Islam rant, in which he remarks about the U.S. Constitution, etc. I also commented about the Constitution and assorted other American ideals, so I'm not sure who the "you" is here, but it's a great message from a couple in the UK.

Quote:

David
An excellent presentation, Mr Savage. And the score from one of my favourite films, too. I played your "video" to my wife, who cannot be said to be particularly interested in politics. I was surprised by her reaction to what you said. She was near tears.

You are right, your Constitution is the finest document that ever saw the light of day. How I wish that we Europeans had something that we even half as good. Guard it with your lives; it is all that stands between you and tryanny.

I urge you all ...do not follow where Europe leads.

Patriots might want to support this e-petition.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-mor ... mmigration

Freethinkaluva22 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:48 am

I am re-posting Acharya's comment from The Truth About Islam thread on page 27.

Quote:

The 270 Million Killed in the Name of Islam

Here is a link to the article that highlights the figure of 270 million murdered by Muslims over the past 1,400 years. It's from Bill Warner's site - he is the originator of this figure, as found on other sites. I've excerpted the most relevant parts here. For the full discussion, see the link.

Tears of Jihad

Quote:

These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.

120 million Africans
60 million Christians
80 million Hindus
10 million Buddhists

This list doesn't include the thousands of others such as Jews and the many thousands of others since it was compiled in 1994. Nor does it include the many thousands of Muslims slaughtered by other Muslims, apparently.

I also wanted to remind readers here about two blogs by Acharya

Pat Condell: Free speech is sacred

Free Speech must be protected!

Freethought Nation

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