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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:02 pm 
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The comment below originally came from an article written in 1993 by Acharya S, which eventually evolved into chapter 11 in The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold, beginning on page 149. It bears repeating as it is vital for it all to sink into the melons of the masses so that they may eventually "get it."
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The "Son" of God is the "Sun" of God:

"The reason these various narratives are so similar, with a godman who is killed or "crucified" and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 companions or "disciples," is because these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the world because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the gospel fable is in large part merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

For instance, a number of the world's sacrificed, suffering or crucified godmen or sun gods have their traditional birthday on December 25th ("Christmas"). This motif represents the ancient recognition that (from a geocentric perspective in the northern hemisphere) the sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21st or 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again. During this time, the ancients declared that "God's sun" had "died" for three days and was "born again" on December 25th. The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if it continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the "sun of God's" birthday on December 25th. The following are the characteristics of the "sun of God":

• The sun "dies" for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
• In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin."190
• The sun is the "Light of the World."
• The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him."
• The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind," as well as the "healer" or "savior" during the day.
• The sun wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo.191
• The sun "walks on water," describing its reflection.
• The sun's "followers," "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass annually.
• The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High"; thus, "he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
• The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.192
• The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified," which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.

(many more in the book 154-156)

Contrary to popular belief, the ancients were not an ignorant and superstitious lot who actually believed their deities to be literal characters. Indeed, this slanderous propaganda has been part of the conspiracy to make the ancients appear as if they were truly the dark and dumb rabble that was in need of the "light of Jesus." The reality is that the ancients were no less advanced in their morals and spiritual practices, and in many cases were far more advanced, than the Christians in their own supposed morality and ideology, which, in its very attempt at historicity, is in actuality a degradation of the ancient Mythos. Indeed, unlike the "superior" Christians, the true intelligentsia amongst the ancients were well aware that their gods were astronomical and atmospheric in nature. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle surely knew that Zeus, the sky god father figure who migrated to Greece from India and/or Egypt, was never a real person, despite the fact that the Greeks have designated on Crete both a birth cave and a death cave of Zeus. In addition, all over the world are to be found sites where this god or that allegedly was born, walked, suffered, died, etc., a common and unremarkable occurrence that is not monopolized by, and did not originate with, Christianity.

- See also, The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ, page 19-20

From the FAQ's: The Son of God is the Sun of God


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Also enjoy "The Naked Truth part 7/12" (to further drive home the point, view specifically time:
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6:12 "The ancient Egyptians believed that as long as the sun came up everyday there'd always be life on earth. Therefore, quite logically, the sun became the representation for everlasting life.

Put it another way, if the sun comes up everyday, food will grow. If food grows people can live and can reproduce. So that when you die, your son can carry on and when he dies, his son can carry on and so forth. So that as long as the sun, the light of the world, comes up everyday, there will be everlasting life on earth.

So quite logically, every major religion and mystic belief features the SUN as its principle and most important feature."

9 "The Egyptians said that the SUN of god, the light of the world, represented EVERLASTING LIFE ON THE EARTH."



The eternal message is simply that so-long as the SUN continues to rise, every morning, and is born again or resurrected 3 days after the winter solstice (the darkest day of the year) every year, there will be everlasting life on planet earth. Not for me, not for you, but through your son/daughter & their kids, life continues on.

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Many folks aren't aware of what astrotheology, archaeoastronomy or myths are. So here's a great place to start...the definitions.

The definitions for astrotheology and archaeoastronomy are pretty cut and dry. However, there are many variations for the definition for myth so I am trying to find the definition that best represents an astrotheological view for us here. If you find a better definition feel free to share it and where it came from.

* Astrotheology - "Theology founded on observation or knowledge of the celestial bodies" ... such as the sun, moon, planets, stars, constellations etc.

* Archaeoastronomy - "The study of the knowledge, interpretations, and practices of ancient cultures regarding celestial objects or phenomena. The branch of archaeology that deals with the apparent use by prehistoric civilizations of astronomical techniques to establish the seasons or the cycle of the year, esp. as evidenced in the construction of megaliths and other ritual structures."

* Myth - "a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature."

"A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society"

"Myths are "stories about divine beings, generally arranged in a coherent system; they are revered as true and sacred; they are endorsed by rulers and priests; and closely linked to religion. Once this link is broken, and the actors in the story are not regarded as gods but as human heroes, giants or fairies, it is no longer a myth but a folktale. Where the central actor is divine but the story is trivial ... the result is religious legend, not myth." [J. Simpson & S. Roud, "Dictionary of English Folklore," Oxford, 2000, p.254]"

"A story of great but unknown age which originally embodied a belief regarding some fact or phenomenon of experience, and in which often the forces of nature and of the soul are personified; an ancient legend of a god, a hero, the origin of a race, etc.; a wonder story of prehistoric origin; a popular fable which is, or has been, received as historical."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/myth

"a myth is a sacred story concerning the origins of the world or how the world and the creatures in it came to be in their present form. The active beings in myths are generally gods and heroes. Myths often are said to take place before recorded history begins. In saying that a myth is a sacred narrative, what is meant is that a myth is believed to be true by people who attach religious or spiritual significance to it. Use of the term by scholars does not imply that the narrative is either true or false."
http://www.reference.com/search?q=myth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth

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LOL, here's a live video on high speed of the "3 Kings" of Orion following Sirius

"Orion constellation"

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Suns of God (excerpt) video clip

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David Deley just steered me to this Melissa Etheridge song from 2008.

She's singing about the SUN at the winter solstice!



O Night Divine
There is a time in late December
The sun stands still in winter
For three days and three long nights
Throughout time we've watched the sky
And waited for the sun to come and save us
Save us from the longest night

For years I have been doing things
And singing songs that don't make any sense
But if I scratch the surface just a little bit
The holiday paint is pretty thin

Look to the sky with hope and wonder
There's a star in the east to guide us home
We are closer now than we've ever been
To peace on earth and good will to men
As we celebrate the longest night
O night divine
O night divine

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That was really cool. The guitar player was nailing the Stevie Ray Vahn sound with that American Strat.

Wouldn't it be cool if a band like "Rage Against the Machine" took up the mythicist cause and blasted it all over the air waves? They did a hell of a job getting their political views out to the world and I can only imagine what they could do with mythicist views on religious fraud and corruption. I wonder if any of the band memebers have seen the ZG movies? You'd think that they must have by now. That could be a song - "The Son of God is the Sun of God".

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Yes, Tat, that would be very cool. Over the years, there are have been small bands here and there who have written songs based on concepts found in my work. I also know of someone who is about to have a young adults book published with some of this information in it. It will be trickling down or up, as the case may be... :wink:

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Acharya wrote:
Yes, Tat, that would be very cool. Over the years, there are have been small bands here and there who have written songs based on concepts found in my work. I also know of someone who is about to have a young adults book published with some of this information in it. It will be trickling down or up, as the case may be... :wink:


Now did Melissa Etheridge write the song as a result of reading your work specifically, or is it based on something else?
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O Night Divine
There is a time in late December
The sun stands still in winter
For three days and three long nights
Throughout time we've watched the sky
And waited for the sun to come and save us
Save us from the longest night

Whatever the case, she certainly comes off as well informed on the meaning of Christmas.

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Be sure to see the post in the FAQ's about the "son/sun" pun as in the title of this thread:

The Son of God is the Sun of God

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Acharya wrote:
In any event, the idea of the sun as both God and the son of God predates the Christian era by centuries, and the ancient solar role was most obviously transferred first to Yahweh and then to his supposed son, the alleged Jewish messiah Jesus Christ.

That pretty much settles it. I've seen the son / sun of God strawman going around on some u-tube videos.

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The SUN is the Savior of Mankind

More evidence...

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Mission Critical: Re-Discover the Sun's Amazing Health Benefits Today

Have you bought into the propaganda that sunlight is the enemy of mankind and must be avoided at all costs to prevent cancer? This may be no more than a popular urban myth of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

Sunlight and Cancer

Medical and scientific research demonstrates that the risk of 20 major cancers is reduced by regular sunlight exposure. These include the "big three" of breast, prostate and colon cancers.

Do you realize that melanoma risk increases as sunlight exposure decreases? In 1900, about 75% of the US population worked outdoors. Today, only 10% of the population does. Even as sunlight exposure has dramatically decreased, melanoma has exponentially increased—by 2,500%!

Astonishingly, melanoma rates increased only in indoor workers – not outdoor workers. Seventy-eight percent of all melanomas occur on areas of your body that are seldom exposed to sunlight. Melanomas also occur inside sexual organs, on the soles of your feet, in your mouth and in armpits -- all areas receiving little or no sunlight exposure.

Another causal factor is the increased use of sunscreen.

But sunlight improves your health on other fronts besides cancer too…

Sunlight and Heart Disease

Could heart disease be related to the amount of sunlight and vitamin D exposure you get? Studies show that if you have low vitamin D3 levels, you have 2.4 times the risk of heart attack as those with the highest vitamin D levels.

What's more…

Men with the lowest levels of vitamin D have nearly six times the risk of hypertension as those with the highest levels. Women have 'just' three times the risk of hypertension if their D3 levels are low.

Vitamin D, Osteoporosis and Fractures

An interesting study was done with women with osteoporosis. They were taken outside for sunbaths for a year, resulting in a 3.3% increase in bone mass and a reduced fracture risk of one-sixth, compared to those women who did not sunbathe. The sunbathers also increased their vitamin D levels by 400%. ...

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Vitamin D and Solar Power

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Speaking of D3, I got pneumonia for the first time in my life, last February. I started taking 1400 IU/day of D3 at the end of summer, and except for one cold and an intestinal virus, this has been the healthiest winter of my life. I didn't even get bronchitis or the flu. While I know winter isn't quite over yet, so far those are the only two things I've suffered with all winter.

Now I'll admit that I did some research of my own before doing this and even looked into how much one can take before it is too much, but given I don't go out into the cold unless I have to, I could get away with 2500 IU/day, if I wanted. That with vitamin C, Echinaccea-Golden Seal, Garlic and a multi-vitamin (which is my usual regime in winter), I've done better this winter, with the addition of D3.

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We also have managed to stay relatively illness free, largely because of vitamin D. You're right to question the dosage - I find that any more than 2,000 IU causes a massive allergic reaction, as described in my blog:

Vitamin D overdose?

But, hallelujah! The bronchitis, colds and flus have been a thing of the past for years now.

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