"The thing about character assassination is that it is hard to "put your foot down""
Actually, it isn't. It's a basic rule in most all forums.
"The answers are not to go 1984 on them and at any slight hint of antagonism, demand the other person be silenced or something."
Nobody is suggesting that
"that person is banned"
I'm not asking for anyone to be banned.
"there is no benefit to getting ultra sensitive about ad homs. The rest of the people who Peter uses as sources are not held up to this kind of untouchable standard on the forum."
You down play how serious this issue is for Acharya. She has to deal with it everyday. It's old and we're ALL burned out on it.
"The movement is not distancing itself from the VALIDITY or VERACITY of Acharya's work."
Yes, we're past all that now.
"And Freethinka, if indeed it has nothing to do with money I totally apologize for even suggesting it."
Fair enough. I appreciate your apology. Books are considered a 'luxury item' people can live without them, they are not necessities.
"Look, the bottom line is I really don't know what the big deal is. People are badmouthing Acharya. That's a shame. But people badmouth other people too."
You're not helping this situation at all by downplaying it like this. You are penalizing the victim.
"Censorship has a purpose, but not as a first line of attack."
Having basic common sense rules against character assassination is not censorship. Those rules are in place to help create an atmosphere for a higher level of discussion. Don't expect to get much education accomplished without a few basic rules of respect.
"Lower down on that up-tightedness. It's OK."
No, it's not okay. You are not helping this situation at all at this point. You might consider stopping. I know you're just trying to help but you're really not. You're making it worse and I don't think you realize that - because I know that's not what you want.
What I'm hearing from you is that character assassination is fine, that Acharya should be used to it by now. And we prefer the smearing, libeling, character assassinating trolls over those who've actually studied Acharya's work, who're addressing the trolls and trying to set the record straight. Asking for a basic rule against it like most forums do
is asking too much.
I'll remember that for a very long time. It's like blaming the rape victim for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. We've never asked for any special treatment ... I'm just asking to stop defending the damn trolls over those who address them and their smears, libel and character assassination in an effort to set the record straight. I've already shared examples
of that. It makes us feel like WE ARE THE ENEMY at TZGM forum
. I think I've explained all this as clearly as I know how about 6 times or more now. You guys are clearly not interested in returning the favor. No point in beating a dead horse.
Maybe it's time we distance our self from ZG1 as well? What do we get out of it? - we get all the abuse and no support. We certainly don't make any money from it.