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""Here you can read the so called the Forbidden Letters, five in total (posts 1-5). The first being quite cryptic, the rest less and less cryptic. Please excuse mistakes in our English, we are French.
Our letters are a reaction on The Serpent Grail, a book by Philip Gardiner and Gary Osborn, launched September 15th 2005."



(I'm not sure where exactly in those Forbidden Letters it is said, but it is said that the Biblical NT Allegories are Alchemical in Nature)

Thoughts? Opinions? Spiritual Alchemy in the Bible?

Alchemy is BS. What does it matter beyond identifying another instance of ancient nonsense?

BS or not, there are verses that seem to suggest that the writers were pulling from a variety of ancient mysticism which includes the faculties of that which lay 'within' the human being. Revelation hits on the 7 stations of Mithra and deals with a psychological transformation happening as the world precesses into the higher ages. People are not wrong for noticing these tidbits and seeing them for what they are.

But under it all there's really nothing more to what lay "within" you than the fabric and structure of existence itself. That's where making God Man and Man God comes into play. There's a lot of flashy langauge and metaphorical terms like "stone" and "fire" and "light" used when speaking about this inner human realization but it's really just a simple matter of understanding that what you are and what the God represents is basically the eternal realm of existence itself - that which has always been and will always be. Then you are "knowing". It's a change in perspective. What's out there is in here and what's in here is out there. Also, when understanding that you are the realm of existence itself in the form of a human being, you can then see that you, as the realm of existence, are essentially without beginning or end. Not you the ego, but you the fabric and structure of existence formed into _______ (your name here). That's what all of this Alchemical material I'm reading in the link you provided leads into. The quest for immortality has to do with self identification with the whole. It's not that your ego consciousness goes on forever, it's that you've come to realize that what you actually are goes on forever with no end in sight. That which is your true inner essence lives on. It's very philosophical in nature, hence "the philosophers stone"...

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

It is my opinion that the root of all Religion does not only include Astrotheology, but also Kundalini Awakening. I don't think Alchemy is BS. I believe it is Humanity's Birth Right: The Tree of Life.

Thanks for your reply, it is really nice to hear from somebody who knows what is going on here in Existence.

Hey TOF, Have you ever listened to any of Manly P. Halls astrotheology lectures? Check this out:

The spiritual reasons behind the use of astrotheology become much more apparent when you follow this series in particular. In actuality the astrological cycles are completely interwoven into the spiritual awakening ideas such as the journey of the soul through planetary spheres that I've put in bold. Many people don't understand this because ZG, for instance, doesn't really focus that deep on the issue. It's just a brief drive by on the astrotheology of the ancients. This all pretty much supports your current path of discovery.

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

Thank you,

I have listened to a little bit of it, and have it bookmarked.

Tat Tvam Asi,

What is a good book that is about The Great Platonic Year? I'm asking because it seems not only very important to learn, but somewhat complex to grasp the basics. Also I would like to learn more in depth about it, it's really fascinating

Here's a quote from another thread about Robert's search for Great Year material:

It's a topic in need of expansion. That what's all of the brainstorming around here between Robert and I has been about. If you read through the above mentioned books you can get a feel for the ground work and build from there as you research it. I love the fact that West and Cruttenden have put it out there in the Magical Egypt series and started the CPAK lectures in California which discuss the Great Year. It's slowly getting out there for discussion.

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

Perfect! Not much out there eh? Well that just means more fun for us noobs and researchers!

Can you point me to your discussion threads with Robert? Thanks a million!

Here's one where I go over Campings dooms day ideas and interpretations of the bible contrasted with the astrotheological interpretation: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2801&start=0

This is about the 12 disciples and all biblical references to the 12 including the great year: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2639&start=0

This was Roberts first thread where we were trying to figure out more about the Great Year's relationship to the bible and running some through ideas about the in-depth Great Year astrotheology of Revelation: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2577&start=0

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

I'm stumped as to which way the Stars/Constellations/Signs move in the Precession of the Zodiac. So they move Westward like the Sun, regularly through the night, right? But which direction does it have to go for it to be a 'Precession'? Could you help me out here? Thanks!

Looking at the eastern horizon, as the sun and constellations along the ecliptic are always moving westward, the vernal equinox sunrises slowly slip backwards year after year. At the beginning of the CE the sun was crossing over into the first fish of Pisces. From then until now the constellation has precessed backwards to where the sun is rising in the second fish of the constellation. In time the sun will start rising in the head region of the Aquarius having precessed backwards from the age of Taurus, Aries, and Pisces. There's good imagery for this in the "Great Year" video and Zeitgeist part 1.

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

Okay, I watched the part that images this, and now I understand, thanks!