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Not all nonbelievers hate religion

I am glad Acharya wrote that article. It needed to be said. From the mythicist camp point of view there really is much marvel in religious concepts, especially regarding astrotheology. I find it far more fascinating than the load of dogma & doctrine we are expected to believe from the status-quo religions.

There's much to dislike about the status-quo/book religions and their history. And Acharya exposes all of that as well. We've gotta get the garbage out of the way i.e. separate fact from fiction in order to get to the good stuff.

Some additional links for further reading from the article above:

The Agnostic Fallacy

Proper Definition & Meaning of "Atheist"

Do atheists disagree with Acharya's basic premise?

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2013 Astrotheology Calendar
The Mythicist Position
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection
Stellar House Publishing at Youtube

Thanks. Naturally, even though I was writing a supportive article, there are some haters in there spewing trash against me personally. They just can't let us out of their cult, can they?

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Why suffer from Egyptoparallelophobia, when you can read Christ in Egypt? Try it - you'll like it:

I just love how we're all dismissed as Satan worshippers part of some Luciferian group without our knowledge of it. Satan sure seems mighty & powerful - it seems Jesus nor God have any power over him. It's probably a her anyway ... St. Ann.

They can't provide credible evidence for Jesus or God and they don't even try to substantiate the claims for Satan because it's so utterly absurd. We know the origins and history of how this devil Satan came into existence based in part off of Pan, originally a positive pagan fertility god complete with horns, hooves and a tail.

They have nothing to offer except fear. They're still in the dark ages in some ways trying to scare people into their cult. It just doesn't work when you know better.

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2013 Astrotheology Calendar
The Mythicist Position
Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection
Stellar House Publishing at Youtube

I don't hate religion either. I hate what humans do with religion. I also enjoyed her article too.

Which reminds me, Acharya, I've been working on my own book. No it's not exactly about mythisim or alike, but rather my life story and part of it includes what I've learned over the years. Needless to say, barring issues with the editor, which I don't expect to have any at all, you and your books will get a plug. Hope you don't mind. If you do, then I won't, but I your work were some of the things I did read and then went on to research related subjects, which support what you say. I think the chapter I mention you is the subject of Easter and sun worship, something I feel should be obvious to believers but seems to not be obvious to them for some reason.

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Mriana

Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. ~ Gandhi

Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~ Thomas A. Edison

This reminded me of a little information stub I read on some educational site from Norway. Some elementary school presents a class project about society and culture. Their statistical analysis gave me a smile

Hvor mange regnet seg som kristne i 2006?
I året 2006 var det ca 45 % av befolkningen i Norge som regner seg som kristne, og 29 % er så kristne at de tror på gud.

How many perceived themselves as christian in 2006?
In 2006 about 45 % of Norwegians perceived themselves as christian, with 29 % being christian in such degree they believe in god.

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Eyvitar firna - er maðr annan skal, þess er um margan gengr guma; heimska ór horskum - gerir hölða sonu - sá inn máttki munr.

Never place blame on man, because it happens to all. No matter how wise, a fool he becomes, when love steals his powers.

Hávamál

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Lmao! that's priceless.

The title of this post is a truth of course.

I would say that atheists love the sinners and hate the sin.

I am not exactly an atheist but closer to them than the usual theist. My God is not their God by a long shot.

That aside. The non believer who will hate the believer is the one who has been told to turn or burn without his objection to whatever issue is being discussed with the theist having been resolved and the theist just pulling rank because his God says it is right and that that makes whatever issue under discussion being won, if you will by the theist.

This first link points to this phenomena and my thoughts on it while the second quote shows why some non believers begin to hate the sinners and not the sin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjxZ6MrB ... re=related

"Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God,
holds other people in contempt.
Whenever a man believes that he has the exact truth from God,
there is in that man no spirit of compromise.
He has not the modesty born of the imperfections of human nature;
he has the arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant assurance.
Believing himself to be the slave of God,
he imitates his master,
and of all tyrants,
the worst is a slave in power."
--Robert Ingersoll

I would be upset with non believers but really, reciprocity is fair play.

Regards
DL

Hi i'm new here

like many people i've come to see the symbolism in the various religious texts and realised "wow, it's a giant metaphor" "it's definitely not history, it's myth, with all the symbolism allegory and metaphor expected when dealing with myth"

but as we know metaphor has literal meaning (denotation) and the real intended meaning it points to (connotation)

to paraphrase Paul

"the denotation kills understanding but the connotation gives life to understanding"

the denotation is the bathwater and the connotation is the baby and who doesn't adore babies? ...oh yeah, literalists who think the bathwater IS the baby!

personally I LOVE religious metaphor, i'm completely and hopelessly addicted to it! and i for one am not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater like the ill informed literalist i used to be.

Welcome to reality and intelligent non literal thought.

Regards
DL

Hey youkrst, have you come over from jcf?

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?

Hi Tat Tvam Asi

the other way around, followed a link from a post here that linked to jcf and had to register there to view it, was well worth it, and as i have a great (mega immense) appreciation for Joe Campbell and his work it seemed like a good idea anyway.

i think i heard of this site over at Jan Irvin's Gnostic Media site, and was also aware of Acharya's excellent work through my research over the years into the christ myth. I had been reading lots of Campbell and Alvin Boyd Kuhn and checking out tons of video and audio by various people surrounding the general theme of "look what they done to my myth, ma"

have really enjoyed reading posts here and was relieved to see i wasn't the only one who felt like pounding my head through a desk sometimes at the abject refusal of so many people to acknowledge the glaringly obvious.

Nice to have you.



I'm glad you like it. Feel free to jump in on any topic that suites your fancy. There's some pretty interesting stuff going around here presently.

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The Jesus Mythicist Creed:
The "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament is a fictional composite of characters, real and mythical. A composite of multiple "people" is no one.

The celestial Origins of Religious Belief
ZG Part 1
Jesus: Hebrew Human or Mythical Messiah?