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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:15 am 
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That would certainly be a wise way to do it, Voice of Reason.

S.T.F. if there's anything specific you need help with just bring it here. Including the ad hom personal smears against Acharya.

I'm checking this thread to see if we've addressed that last half our S.T.F. mentioned. It looks like I've addressed a few of them in these two links from the first page here already but, I'm checking for more So that the new video by S.T.F. will be thorough and up to date.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:38 am 
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Yeah, just list the attacks one by one so that we can address some or all of them if you prefer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:02 pm 
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There's something I'd like to see addressed if it's not already too late or maybe it belongs in another video but, it would be sweet to have in this one since I assume many Christians will probably watch it.

As a former evangelical of a couple decades, one thing, in my opinion, that really keeps Christianity alive is this idea of Jesus' 2nd coming & rapture. The thing they don't spend any time considering is all the death and destruction that will result due to all these 'End Times' prophecies.

If god really exists and cares about us, God should understand our logical concerns regarding credible evidence. But, when it comes to valid evidence for God, Jesus, Christianity or any religion, God doesn't seem to give a shit. Christians need to ponder upon all the death and destruction due to religious bigotry, fundamentalism and cultural prejudice. Christians need to realize that WE ARE NOT THE ENEMY.

250 million been killed in the name of Christianity

Pagan Destruction Chronology (314-870 C.E.)

How many has God killed?

God/Jesus is supposed to be the omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe yet is incapable of leaving behind credible evidence of himself which would:

1. Save Christians from persecution

2. Convince billions more skeptics and Pagans thus, saving more souls, which is what all of this is suppose to be all about, right?

So, either God/Jesus doesn't give a shit about you or he doesn't exist. All theistic arguments have failed. There's still not a shred of valid evidence for Christian supernatural religious claims. If there were any credible evidence FAITH would not be the main requirement. It seems more likely that religion is a human creation with an obsession of ridding the world of non-believers.

At the end of the day after the tribulation, apocalypse and Armageddon, the book of Revelation makes it clear that eventually 2/3rds of the human population (all non-believers of course = discrimination) will be killed in what the religious tolerance website calls "the largest mass extermination of humans in history." With nearly 7 billion people on the planet right now that's 5.25 billion who will be murdered in the 'End Times.' What a sweet God you've got there (sarcasm). And what really gets me is that the word "rapture" isn't even in the bible.

Blatant Discrimination against non-believers:

1 John 4:2-3 Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God.

2 John 7: "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh..."

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

Psalm 14:1 The fool says in his heart, 'There is no god.' they are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/intol_bibl3.htm

"People who are obsessed with end times have never learned from history. They've been 100 percent wrong, 100 percent of the time."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:02 pm 
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The next film is up! :mrgreen:
Very happy about this one. http://vimeo.com/18682868
But there will be more to come. Thanks for the suggestions and links Freethink and VOR. They'll definitely come in handy. The next film I'll make will have to to with Bible origins. Any links on that subject would be helpful. Thanks. Enjoy the film!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:20 pm 
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S.T.F. wrote:
The next film is up! :mrgreen:
Very happy about this one. http://vimeo.com/18682868
But there will be more to come. Thanks for the suggestions and links Freethink and VOR. They'll definitely come in handy. The next film I'll make will have to to with Bible origins. Any links on that subject would be helpful. Thanks. Enjoy the film!


And I just posted it up on YT



I'll be adding links in the description section later


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:39 pm 
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If you want to take Elliot out through the section where he strays from ZG and starts taking Acharya out of context, just have a look at The Origins of Religious Worship in my signature. It has to be shown that the story of Jesus is both covering the last annual year in the age of Aries, where he is the lamb of God and passes through each monthly sign, and then comes up on the crucifixion where the sun crosses over from one age to the next as well as one Great Year to the next. To illustrate this the arrow would be pointing to the very end of the age of Aries and showing Jesus going through each monthly sign of that last year. That's where Acharya is associating Jesus with Aquarius, and Aries, and Taurus, and shows the context of why she's saying that. He's the sun moving through time and there's the annual year and Great Year to consider. It's all referring to the passage of time. And if get better acquainted with the astrotheology of the mythos you can rip Elliot apart during that side track section against Acharya.

Another big f**k up he made was during the loaves and fishes allegory. Virgo was already associated with the house of bread, because of the wheat. He points out that bread is mentioned as well as fish and then asserts that nobody calls it the age of bread. Wrong!!! The axis of the age is the Pisces-Virgo axis. It's the vernal age of Pisces and the autumnal age of Virgo. And many esoteric's often do favor the age as of Virgo because it's the Pisces-Virgo axis. The loaves and fishes allegory is taking place while Jesus is going through the last annual year of the age of Aries. It's the age of the Ram-scales axis, Aries-Libra. That's the age of Moses and the law. Jesus is pointing out that a new age is fast approaching, the age of the fish and bread. And in the two versions the writers have made use of the old 5 and 7 mystery covered by MP Hall in "The Planets and the Ancient Gods". In the one version the five loaves are the planets with a Virgo reference and the two fishes are the sun and moon with a Pisces reference. It summarizes the total concept of the sun, moon, and five planets getting ready to enter the new axis of Pisces-Virgo. And then another telling is thrown in where there are seven loaves and a few fish which throws in the sun, moon, and five planets together with bread and fish symbolism, another way of expressing the same thing. And he asks the disciples why they don't understand. He's taken common men and started teaching them the solar mysteries. And they don't understand. And he's coming down on the religious leaders because the ages are about to change, the Great Year is about to start over again because the age of Pisces-Virgo coming up is the first age of the new Great Year cycle. The whole story is oriented around this theme. And then after the resurrection the sun had crossed into Pisces at the vernal equinox and Jesus has the fish dinner to initiate the new age he had been foretelling along during his lifes ministry previous while the sun was in the age of Aries. Elliot has no clue...

Gospel Zodiac

The Gospel and the Zodiac

Manly P. Hall's Astrotheology Series Part 1

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:47 pm 
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Very good points Tat Tvam Asi. Wish I had them in the video. Addmitedly I've only read Christ in Egypt, so I don't know as much about the Astrotheology. Once again, thanks for uploading the video to youtube Voice of Reason. Perhaps when you add links to the video you can add Tat Tvam Asi's post about that? It would certainly be helpful in addressing that section of the film, since I didn't really know what to put there. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:56 pm 
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I mean to try and pass the knowledge along to you. I'm sure if you go through the links and video that it will start getting a lot clearer. I actually need to learn the video making art because I can visualize a lot of ways of illustrating in detail how Jesus' ministry follows each month of the year and takes the reader from one Aeon to the next at the same time. PJ didn't put enough depth into it. The only reason these critics can take Acharya out of context like that is when people aren't given a total illustration of Jesus moving through the months and the two Aeons as one all encompassing total reference to the passage of time.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:22 am 
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Well everyone, it looks like I'm not gonna be able to upload anymore video's on YT that are over 15min long thanks to a Turkish Fascist who decided to DMCA a video response I made due to the fact that I supposedly took him out of context. For those wondering it wasn't about Christianity but it was about his claim on about a system he is advocating called "Equal Money system" (whatever the f**k that means). Details given in the video below.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:36 pm 
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What the hell? So, if and when your counter notice prevails, will they restore your extended time limit capacity? I don't understand this policy at all.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:08 pm 
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GodAlmighty wrote:
What the hell? So, if and when your counter notice prevails, will they restore your extended time limit capacity? I don't understand this policy at all.


I don't really know, they may or they may just have the ability taken away permanently.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:15 am 
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For those of you who didn't already know, voice won the dispute and got his extended time limit restored.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:21 pm 
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Nice.

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