Truth_Seeker wrote:
"Crucifixion is an ancient method of deliberately painful execution in which the condemned person is tied or nailed to a large wooden cross and left to hang until dead."
"Definition of CRUCIFY
transitive verb
1
: to put to death by nailing or binding the wrists or hands and feet to a cross"
The answer is no. Horus was not crucified.
Welcome to the forum, Truth_Seeker. It would be wise, of course, to actually read the article, which is the subject of this thread:
Was Horus "Crucified?", as well as read through the posts in this thread also feel free to read the 30 page chapter in the book if you're seriously interested in this subject.
You've provided a quote from Wikipedia, which is well known to be edited by Christians, and a definition selected by Christians. If you'll take the time to study the history on this subject you'll learn that the bible, in its original language, never claims Jesus was even crucified on a cross - it uses the Greek word for pale or stake. You'll also learn that crucifixion had spiritual or religious meanings thousands of years prior to the advent of Christianity providing mythical
concepts later utilized by Christians. The symbol of the cross itself is a very ancient solar symbol signifying the sun. We still to this day see no credible evidence that the New Testament Jesus ever existed.
Without the Christian biases:
"severe and unjust punishment or suffering; persecution"Quote:
Jesus and the CrossThe most important symbol in Christianity today is the cross. However, there is no cross in early Christian art before the middle of the 5th century, where it appears on a coin in a painting. The first clear crucifixion image of Jesus appears in the late 7th century. Before then, Jesus was almost always depicted as a fish or a Shepard, not on a cross. Any bible that contains the word "cross" or "crucify" is dishonest.
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"The Babylonians, Egyptians, Aztecs & others had cross symbols. However, there is no cross in Christianity. No cross at all! There is no cross anywhere in the bible. The words which have been translated "cross" & "crucify" in the New Testament are "stauross" or "stavross" & "stavrooh". All translators, even fundamentalists, agree that they are not a cross. Liddell & Scotts A Greek-English Lexicon defines "stauross" or "stavross" as "upright pale or stake". W.E. Vines Expository Dictionary of New Testament words, another Christian resource, reports that "stauross" or "stavross" - "denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake."
- "Losing Faith in Faith" page 203-4 by Dan Barker, former Christian Pastor of 20 years
Quote:
"In the gospel story Jesus tells his disciples to 'take up the cross' & follow him. Obviously, the cross already existed and was a well-known symbol, such that Jesus did not even have to explain this strange statement about an object that, we are led to believe, only gained significance AFTER Jesus died on it..."
"...The early Christians were actually repulsed by the image of a man hanging on the cross which was not adopted until the 7th century. Walker states, "Early Christians even repudiated the cross because it was pagan...Early images of Jesus represented him not on a cross, but in the guise of the Osirian or Hermetic 'Good Sheperd,' carrying a lamb..."
- Christ Conspiracy pg 218
Quote:
"As is acknowledged by the Catholic Encyclopedia ("Archaeology of the Cross and Crucifix"):
"The sign of the cross, represented in its simplest form by a crossing of two lines at right angles, greatly antedates, in both the East and the West, the introduction of Christianity. It goes back to a very remote period of human civilization."
"It is also, according to Milani, a symbol of the sun…, and seems to denote its daily rotation."
The cross was in pre-Christian times a common symbol, revered as a divine sign, an emblem of the solar deity, representing the times of the year when the sun appears to be "hung on a cross," i.e., the vernal and autumnal equinoxes."
"early Christian writer Minucius Felix (c. 250) in his Octavius, in which Felix denied that Christians worship a "criminal and his cross," which may signify a denial of Jesus being a "criminal," rather than that Christianity did not then possess the tradition of a god crucified."
"Tertullian, likewise confirmed the Pagan cross and crucifix, in his response to the charges that Christians adored the cross. As CE relates:
"The Christian apologists, such as Tertullian (Apol., xvi; Ad. Nationes, xii) and Minucius Felix (Octavius, lx, xii, xxviii), felicitously replied to the pagan taunt by showing that their persecutors themselves adored cruciform objects."
"In The Apology (Chapter XVI), Tertullian writes:
"Then, if any of you think we render superstitious adoration to the cross, in that adoration he is sharer with us...We have shown before that your deities are derived from shapes modelled from the cross. But you also worship victories, for in your trophies the cross is the heart of the trophy....Others, again, certainly with more information and greater verisimilitude, believe that the sun is our god..."
http://www.truthbeknown.com/kcrucified_4.htm Quote:
"The verb "to crucify" comes from the Latin crucifigere, which simply means "to fix to a cross" and does not necessarily signify to throw down to the ground and nail a living person to a cross. To be "crucified," therefore, could refer to an image of a god or man simply fixed to a cross, as in a crucifix. In discussing "crucifixion," then, the point to keep in mind is the contention that various mythical motifs such as the god with outstretched arms or the sun on the cross were already in existence and revered long prior to the common era, likely utilized in the weaving of the Christ myth."
- Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection page 336
Quote:
"The cross...is a symbol of the highest antiquity, but the representation of a figure with the hands and feet pierced with nails belongs to a later period. The most ancient delineation of the cruciform attitude is the figure of the god in the vault of heaven, with outstretched arms, blessing the universe."
- Christ in Egypt 348
The word "Crucifixion"Cruciforms/Gods on CrossesHanging Jesus on a treeQuote:
"[Horus] is pictured as spanning the dome of heaven, his arms stretched out in a cruciform pattern."- Dr. Robert Price, Biblical Scholar with two Ph.D's
Dr. Price's review of Acharya's book "Christ in Egypt" When dealing with the issue of crucifixion it's important to realize just how influenced and affected we all are today in the sense that most of us are quite familiar with the Jesus story from the New Testament. Christianity has "borrowed" that concept and twisted it into a ritual blood sacrifice. We have a tendency to treat Jesus' crucifixion as the original when it is not. It is a twisted version of an ancient mythical concept based on natural phenomena -
astrotheology.
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