Guest observers and all readers must keep in mind that it's imperative to understand that the context for all of the lists are provided in Acharya's books and her sources with details from primary sources and scholar commentary on them - the lists are just summaries of those details. Of course, KingDavid8 could've saved himself the time, money, trouble and everybody else's time and trouble by simply reading the books he's been refusing to read yet criticizing for 10 years now as explained here:
Jesus & Horus Parallels and KingDavid8.com Exposed. So, we are here doing something we really don't want to do by trying to narrow down at least over 2,100 pages of text into a succinct post to spoon-feed KD8 what he refuses to read for himself.
Below is the Horus list along with the KD8.com "challenge" for anyone to provide evidence for half the list in order to get started, as if there isn't any evidence for at least half the list:
KD8 wrote:
1. Born of a virgin
2. Born in a cave/manger
3. Birth announced by a star in the East
4. Birth attended by three wise men
5. Was a child teacher in the temple at age 12
6. Baptized by "Anup the Baptizer"
7. Baptizer was decapitated
8. Had 12 disciples
9. Performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised the dead
10. Walked on water
11. His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."12. Delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."
13. Was transfigured on the Mount.
14. Was crucified
15. Was buried for three days in a tomb
16. Was resurrected
17. He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God's Anointed Son," "the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth." (Note: If you can prove any four of these titles, I'll consider this one fulfilled)
18. Was "the Fisher", was associated with the Fish, Lamb and Lion.
19. Came to fulfill the law
20. Called "The KRST" or "anointed one"
21. Was supposed to reign a thousand years.
If you can provide evidence (of the type I requested - the ancient stories, pre-Christian images, confirmation from peer-reviewed journals, university-level scholars or mainstream mythology websites) for at least
11 of them, you will get an equal percentage of the money. If you can do all of the above, you'll get the full $1000. E-mail it to me, and I'll post your evidence, unedited, to my website. If you can't, please explain why not. I'm not going to bother debating individual claims unless you can provide evidence for at least half of the list, though.
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http://kingdavid8.com/_full_article.php?id=0485927a-641d-11e1-9d05-8e2c306f9bbb
So I guess I'll start off by posting bits and pieces of the evidence from CiE (as briefly as possible) for the first 11 items on the list and then continue on from there. And KD8 can feel free to go ahead and donate the first $500 of the challenge to this website and have it confirmed for the readers on his own website before we continue on with the rest of the Horus list for the full $1000...
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1. Born of a Virgin - already conceded by KD8 after a year of insisting that it wasn't true:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3206&start=165KD8 wrote:
"The reason I concede is that a few months ago I debated a mythicist who pointed out to me that Bob Becking (Utrech University), Pieter Willem van der Horst (Utrech University) and Karel van der Toorn (University of Amsterdam) said that Isis was a virgin mother in their book "Dictionary of Dieties and Demons in the Bible". Since these are university-level scholars, I accept them as evidence for the claim, per the rules of my challenge, and posted this information on my website (see here: http://www.kingdavid8.com/_full_article ... 2b2b162e97)." "The Pyramid Texts speak of “the great virgin” (Hwn.t wr.t) three times (682c, 728a, 2002a, cf. 809c)" ...
"In a text in the Abydos Temple of Seti I, Isis herself declares:
“I am the great virgin.”- Christ in Egypt, page 152
* The Pyramid Texts are around 4,400 years old.
“The Egyptian goddess who was equally ‘the Great Virgin’ (hwnt) and ‘Mother of the God’ was the object of the very same praise bestowed upon her successor [Mary, Virgin Mother of Jesus].”
- Dr. Witt, an Egyptologist, Christ in Egypt, 120
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2. Born in a cave/manger- In "On Mankind: Their Origin and Destiny," Arthur Thomson summarizes the story of the baby sun at the winter solstice, who was born of a virgin mother, specifically as applied to Horus and Isis:
"The Egyptians did in fact celebrate at the winter solstice the birth of the son of Isis (Plut. De Iside), and the delivery of the goddess who had brought this young child into the world, feeble and weak, and in the midst of the darkest night. This child, according to Macrobius, was the god of light, Apollo, or the sun, painted with his head shorn of his beaming hair, his head shaved, and with only a single hair left. By this, says Macrobius, the dimness of the light at the winter solstice, and the shortness of the days as well as the darkness of the deep cave in which this god seemed to be born, and from which he issued forth to rise in the direction of the northern hemisphere and the summer solstice, in which he reassumed his dominion and his glory, was indicate..." (Macrob. Sat. 1. I. cap. xxi)
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Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection (CIE), 111
Arthur Dyot Thomson, M.A. of Balliol College, Oxford, page 469
LinkUniversity professor Dr. David Leeming:
"It was believed the evening sun penetrated a cave in the west, and over a period of twelve hours passed through the underworld from which it emerges the next morning, regenerated."
LinkHorus is the sun born in the morning, he thus emerges from the underworld, which is a CAVE. The manger concept can be found in the Epiphanius material vis-a-vis the virgin Kore. That can be tied into the baby sun-god Sokar, identified with Horus, who is brought out of the temple each year in an "ark" or "manger."
(Dr. David Adams Leeming, professor emeritus of English and comparative literature at the University of Connecticut)
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3. Birth announced by a star in the East
- "At PT 593:1636a/M 206, Sirius’s announcement of Osiris is also discussed in terms of the god spreading his “seed” or “semen” upon Isis in order to create Horus..."
- CIE, 202
Regarding the role of Sirius/Sothis in Egyptian mythology, in The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts, Egyptologist James Allen states:
"Sothis (spdt "Sharp"). The morning star, Sirius ... The star's rising was also seen as a harbinger of the sunrise and therefore associated with Horus in his solar aspect, occasionally specified as Horus in Sothis (hrw jmj spdt), Sothic Horus (hrw spdtj), or Sharp Horus (hrw spd)."
- CIE, 201
In addition, Pyramid Text 593:1636b/M 206 states: "Horus the pointed has come forth from thee, in his name of 'Horus who was in Sothis.'" "Horus in Sothis," therefore, refers to when the sun rises with Sirius. Thus, in ancient texts we find the birth of Horus the sun associated with the star in the east.
Egyptologist Dr. J. Gwyn Griffiths concurs that "the inundation of the Nile was often connected by the Egyptians with the heliacal rising of the star Sothis (the Dog Star, Sirius), seen in the constellation of Orion." To summarize, the three wise men serve as pointers for the star in the east, which in turn announces the savior of Egypt.
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4. Birth attended by three wise men"As noted, within the constellation of Orion, “the Hunter,” are three bright stars said to make up his “belt.” Concerning these stars, in The Geography of the Heavens renowned Christian astronomer Elijah Hinsdale Burritt (1794-1838) remarks:
"They are sometimes denominated the Three Kings, because they point out the Hyades and Pleiades on one side, and Sirius, or the Dog-star, on the other. In Job they are called the Bands of Orion...1"
- CIE 204/5
"...Pyramid Text 593:1636b/M 206 states: "Horus the pointed has come forth from thee, in his name of 'Horus who was in Sothis.'" "Horus in Sothis," therefore, refers to when the sun rises with Sirius. Thus, in ancient texts we find the birth of Horus the sun associated with the star in the east.
Egyptologist Dr. J. Gwyn Griffiths concurs that "the inundation of the Nile was often connected by the Egyptians with the heliacal rising of the star Sothis (the Dog Star, Sirius), seen in the constellation of Orion." To summarize, the three wise men serve as pointers for the star in the east, which in turn announces the savior of Egypt."
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5. Was a child teacher in the temple at age 12
- "In the Egyptian story of Khamuas/Khamois found on Papyrus DCIV of the British Museum appears an interesting tale about Sa-Asar, Si-Osiris or Senosiris—the “son of Osiris”—who “grew rapidly in wisdom and knowledge of magic.” The tale continues: “When Si-Osiris was twelve years old he was wiser than the wisest of the scribes.”
- Folk-Lore, 498. Folk-Lore: A Quarterly Review of the Myth, Tradition, Institution, & Custom, David Nutt, London, 1901.
- CIE 213
FN. "The earliest date for papyrus DCIV is 46-47 AD/CE, as it is written on the back of official documents created at that time. Since there is absolutely no evidence for the existence at that time of the gospel of Luke, in which this story concerning Christ is contained—in fact there is no real scientific evidence for the existence of Luke’s gospel as we have it until the end of the second century—if the pertinent story regarding Senosiris also dates to that early time, it would serve as clear indication that the gospel story was borrowed from it and not the other way around."
- CIE 213
In The Dawn of Astronomy, [Royal Astronomer Sir Norman] Lockyer describes this process of Horus becoming Re at the hour or ―age‖ of 12:
"We have the form of Harpocrates at its rising, the child sun-god being generally represented by the figure of a hawk. When in human form, we notice the presence of a side lock of hair. The god Ra symbolises, it is said, the sun in his noontide strength; while for the time of sunset we have various names, chiefly Osiris, Tum, or Atmu, the dying sun represented by a mummy and typifying old age. The hours of the day were also personified, the twelve changes during the twelve hours being mythically connected with the sun‘s daily movement across the sky. The various "phases" of the sun‘s journey were given different personalities, while remaining one entity. Hence, Horus the Child wears the side lock until 12 noon when he becomes the adult Re."
The various “phases” of the sun’s journey were given different personalities, while remaining one entity. Hence, Horus the Child wears the side lock until 12 noon when he becomes the adult Re.
- CIE 214
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6. Baptized by "Anup the Baptizer."“For washing is the channel through which [the heathen] are initiated into some sacred rites—of some notorious Isis or Mithras. The gods themselves likewise they honour by washings.”
- Tertullian, On Baptism, V (9)
“How natural and expressive the symbolism of exterior washing to indicate interior purification was recognized to be, is plain from the practice also of the heathen systems of religion. The use of lustral water is found among the Babylonians, Assyrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Hindus, and others.”
- Catholic Encyclopedia, “Baptism” (II, 260)
“Baptism is a very ancient rite pertaining to heathen religions, whether of Asia, Africa, Europe or America. It was one of the Egyptian rites in the mysteries.”
- James Bonwick, Egyptian Belief and Modern Thought (416)
“The Egyptian baptismal rite has its origins in the Heliopolitan worship of the sun early in the Pyramid Age. The Egyptians believed that each morning the sun passed through the waters of the ocean before being reborn, emerging purified and revitalized. The ritual baptism of the pharaoh each morning symbolized this event and renewed life and vigor of the recipient.”
- Dr. Richard A. Gabriel, Gods of the Fathers (184)
“...all religious ceremonies of Pharaonic times, whether performed on behalf of a deity, a deceased noble, or the living king, were prefaced by some act of ritual cleansing...”
- Sir Dr. Alan H. Gardiner, “The Baptism of Pharaoh,” The Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, 36 (3)
- CIE 232
Jackal:
"The jackal-headed god Anubis was known well enough to the Greeks by the time of Plato in the fourth century that in his book Gorgias (482b) the philosopher depicts his mentor, Socrates, as swearing “by the dog, the God of the Egyptians.” 2 Plato/Nienkamp, 120; Hornung, SLE, 21.
"The worship of Anubis/Anup/Anpu, also styled Anep, Anepo or Anebo, as well as Anupu and Inpu, among others, may extend back some 6,000 years, making him one of the older gods.1 As noted, Anubis is often portrayed with the head of a jackal, while the jackal constellation is also called the “Jackal of Set,” the latter god at times being identified with Anubis.2 Hence, this god of the underworld is sometimes deemed “Set-Anubis” or “Sut-Anup.” Furthermore, Anubis is at times also depicted as a human being,3 an important fact to know when comparing him to John the Baptist. Sired by either Set or Osiris,4 depending on the myth, Anubis is the son of their sister Nephthys. Thus, like John’s mother, Elizabeth, who was the Virgin Mary’s cousin, Anubis’s mother, Nephthys, was related to Horus’s mother, Isis.5 Hence, as John and Jesus are related to each other..."
- CIE 235/6
John the Baptist and Jesus' Birthdays"in the Pyramid Texts we find much discussion of the “purifying lake,” which, as at PT 697:2170a/N 564, is that of the jackal: “Thou purifiest thyself in the lake of the jackal; thou cleansest thyself in the lake of the Duat [Netherworld].”1 In addition, at PT 504:1083b/P 458, the Osiris says, “I have cleansed myself in the lakes of the jackal.”2 At CT Sp. 551, we also discover the Osiris bathing in the “Lakes of the Netherworld” and washing in the “Lakes of the Jackals.”3 The “lake of the jackal” or “jackal lake,” in which the deceased or the souls are purified in their progress to immortality, as also at PT 697:2170a/N 564,4 could be understood to be that of Anubis. In CT Sp. 61, the deceased is “cleansed in the Lake of Cold Water,” while Anubis “burns incense for you….”5 The Jackal Lake, in fact, features prominently in the purification of the sun during its nightly journey.6
Anubis as a jackal purifying the dead is undoubtedly based on that scavenger’s role in keeping the land free of putrefaction. This idea is indicated by certain passages in the sacred scriptures, as in CT Sp. 73, discussing the names of Anubis and the “Jackal of Upper Egypt” associated with protection against “rotting” and “putrefaction.”7
Moreover, as embalmer, Anubis’s purifying role in mummification is made clear in the fact that he presides over the “House of Purification”8 and “Tent of Purification,” the latter called tp-jbw in Egyptian.9 In describing the funerary rituals, Dr. Lesko states:
"Pouring of water, for its life-giving as well as purification qualities, was part of every ritual. The corpse, whether first desiccated or not, would have been washed (in the Tent of Purification) and then anointed and wrapped in the embalmer’s shop. Seven sacred oils used for anointing the body are known already in the first dynasty..."10
As we can see, not only was the Osiris baptized but he was also anointed or Christed, as the word would be in Greek. In the “mortuary workshop,” the “rites of embalmming and purification”11 thus go hand in hand. Hence, the deceased—who is at times Osiris and at others Horus—is purified or baptized.
Concerning the cleansing of the deceased in the “Tent of Purification,” in The Apis Embalming Ritual, Dutch Egyptologist Dr. René L. Vos states:
"This washing of the corpse with water is an ancient solar rite, the object being the removal of impurity and the bringing about of resurrection, just as the sun rises from the primeval waters or, which amounts to the same thing, from the horizon.1"
After the corpse is purified, it is moved into the House of Embalming, about which Dr. Vos remarks that it was “above all the house in which the mystery of resurrection was performed, as Osiris had risen from the dead... Purity is a precondition for resurrection... The embalmers enter the House of Embalming after they have met the requirements of purity...”2
Dr. Roth also describes the ritual for the deceased, in which the procession “went aboard a special boat,” which “carried the procession to the sh ntr Jnpw” or the “divine booth of Anubis— probably to be equated with the purification tent…”3
Throughout this complex ritual of purification and resurrection, in which “Osiris is risen from the dead,” as is Horus as the morning sun rising from the “primeval waters,” Anubis is thus the “purifier”4 —or baptist—a role spelled out also in BD 97...."
Footnotes:
1 Vos, R.L., 31.
2 Vos, R.L., 34.
3 Redford, 152.
4 Renouf, EBD, 49; Renouf, PSBA, XIV, 390.
- Christ in Egypt, 250
Footnotes:
1 Mercer; 315; Allen, J., AEPT, 298; Faulkner, AEPT, 304.
2 Mercer, 187; Allen, J., AEPT, 155; Faulkner, AEPT, 180.
3 Faulkner, AECT, II, 163.
4 Faulkner, AEPT, 304; Allen, J., AEPT, 298; Mercer, 315.
5 Faulkner, AECT, I, 56.
6 See, e.g., Willems, 297-298.
7 Faulkner, AECT, I, 68.
8 Hart, 26. See also Vos, R.L., 31-32, 34, 51-52, etc.
9 Redford, 150.
10 Redford, 76.
11 Davis, W.M., 170.
- CIE 249
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7. Baptizer was decapitated"In addition, in the gospel story John the Baptist is decapitated, while, as noted, at different times the constellation of Aquarius also appears to have lost its head. Furthermore, Isis is depicted as decapitated, as the constellation of Virgo at certain times, while Anubis too is associated with headlessness:
"Anubis has a special emblem symbolizing his role as an embalmer. It is a headless animal skin...sometimes dripping blood, tied to a pole. This emblem can also be jackal-headed, as in the Litany of Ra describing the sun-god’s journey through the underworld."
- CIE, 254
Hart, George, The Routledge Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses, Routledge, London/NY, 2005.
"(George Hart was the Curator in the Education Department of the British Museum, he specialised as an Education Officer for Egyptology)"
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8. Had 12 disciples"In the seventh hour or division of the Book of the Amduat, as found in the tomb of the pharaoh Tuthmosis/Thutmose III (15th cent. BCE), for example, “Horus of the netherworld” is clearly depicted seated on a throne as the sun god, with 12 “star gods” in front of him. Horus’s throne surrounded by “his Enneads” is also mentioned at CT Sp. 1099."
- CIE, 270, Erik Hornung, AEBA 48 (professor emeritus of Egyptology at the University of Basel from 1967 to 1998)
"...Horus is thus firmly associated with 12 “star-gods,” who, in conducting the sun god through his passage, can be deemed his “protectors,” “assistants” or “helpers,” etc."
- CIE 271
Horus and the 12 DisciplesOn the word "disciple." Quote:
9. Performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised the dead
Bread: "In the gospels of Matthew (15:34, 36; 16:10) and Mark (8:5-6) much is made about Jesus multiplying the seven loaves of bread. Meanwhile, centuries to millennia earlier, a similar fuss occurred over the “seven loaves” in the Book of the Dead, as in chapter 52 and 53b. In the Pyramid Texts (PT 437:807a/P 31; PT 675:2006b/ N 410), the god offers the deceased “thy thousand (loaves) of bread…”
- CIE 288/9
Water: "In BD 62, for example, the deceased, who is Re or Osiris, pleads to have “command of the water,”6 saying, “May I be granted power over the waters…”7 Spells 57, 58 and 59 of the BD are titled chapters for “command of water” or “having power over water,” ... as was said of Jesus in Matthew 8:24-26.
Walking on water: "In BD 64, the speaker says, “‘I know the deep waters’ is my name…. I travel on high, I tread upon the firmament...”8 Since the firmament is ostensibly Nu—indeed, T. George Allen notes that the firmament in this scripture is “watery”—it appears appropriate to say that the Osiris was to trod across the celestial waters, as in BD 15: “Osiris N….thou crossest the (watery) firmament.”9 As another example, in BD 145/6, according to Birch, the deceased, as Horus, says, “I navigate the water, fording it.”10 The traditional water-control refers not only to treading in it but also to trodding upon it."
"...the theme of “walking on water” is old and non-Christian, found in Buddhist tales, for example, such as in the legend of Buddha’s disciple Savatthi Sariputta,2 as well as in the stories of Indian yogis. Also, in The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark, Claremont Graduate University professor of Theology Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald sees in the story of Hermes and Zeus in The Iliad (2.4) a pre-Christian instance of “walking on water.”3 In the end, the supposed miracle of Christ’s walking on water would be neither original nor, we maintain, historical, but, rather, reflects the astrotheological motif concerning the sun god, e.g., Re, Osiris and/or Horus."
- CIE 293-7
Spit: "Like Jesus, who cures the blind man with his spit, Horus heals wounds using his spittle (PT 455:850a/P 50) ... In CT Sp. 1113, the deceased as Horus says, “I am one who spits on wounds which will heal..."
Resurrection/raising the dead: "The resurrection of Osiris by Horus occurs in many ancient Egyptian texts and is often the primary focus of the deceased’s bid for immortality in like kind. At PT 606:1683a-1685b/M 336, for example, Horus is vividly described as raising Osiris from the dead and avenging him.
"In Horus in the Pyramid Texts, T. George Allen summarizes the resurrection account, rolling into one entry the events as found in separate utterances, demonstrating how composite myths are made."
1 Allen, J., AEPT, 226; Mercer, 257; Faulkner, AEPT, 250.
2 Allen, T., HPT, 40; Mercer, 124, 127, 171, 266, 318; Allen, J., AEPT, 80, 82, 129, 242, 303; Faulkner, AEPT, 119, 122, 164, 257, 306.
3 Allen, T., HPT, 43; Mercer, 90; Allen, J., AEPT, 49; Faulkner, AEPT, 77. Again, the ka is the second material body or “double” that must be purified in order to receive the immortal ba or soul.
4 Faulkner, AEPT, 38; Allen, T., HPT, 43; Mercer, 142; Allen, J., AEPT, 86.
"The Greek name “Lazarus” or “Lazaros” equals “Eleazar” in Hebrew and, per Strong’s [Concordance] (G2976), means “whom God helps.” It is a strange coincidence firstly that the person whom Jesus resurrects happens to be named “whom God helps,” and secondly that “Eleazar”—or, breaking down its original components in Hebrew, El-Azar—closely resembles a combination of the Semitic word for God, “El,” with the Egyptian name for Osiris, “Ausar.”
- CIE 297-304
Exorcizing demons: "the Book of the Dead exists in order to purify the Osiris, such as is expressed at BD 30B, which essentially opens the sacred text: “The vindicated Osiris Ani is straightforward, he has no sin, there is no accusation against him before us…”2 If the deceased were found unworthy, he could be sent back to earth as a pig, whereas those whose sins were redeemable would take part in the Resurrection. Indeed, in the Coffin Texts appears a suggestion of the miracle of Jesus driving the demons into the swine and killing them (Mt 8:32; Mk 5:13; Lk 8:33), in a spell (CT Sp. 440) entitled, “Spell for Driving off Pigs.”
- CIE 313
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10. Walked on water.
Walking on water: "In BD 64, the speaker says, “‘I know the deep waters’ is my name…. I travel on high, I tread upon the firmament...”8 Since the firmament is ostensibly Nu—indeed, T. George Allen notes that the firmament in this scripture is “watery”—it appears appropriate to say that the Osiris was to trod across the celestial waters, as in BD 15: “Osiris N….thou crossest the (watery) firmament.”9 As another example, in BD 145/6, according to Birch, the deceased, as Horus, says, “I navigate the water, fording it.”10 The traditional water-control refers not only to treading in it but also to trodding upon it."
"...the theme of “walking on water” is old and non-Christian, found in Buddhist tales, for example, such as in the legend of Buddha’s disciple Savatthi Sariputta,2 as well as in the stories of Indian yogis. Also, in The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark, Claremont Graduate University professor of Theology Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald sees in the story of Hermes and Zeus in The Iliad (2.4) a pre-Christian instance of “walking on water.”3 In the end, the supposed miracle of Christ’s walking on water would be neither original nor, we maintain, historical, but, rather, reflects the astrotheological motif concerning the sun god, e.g., Re, Osiris and/or Horus."
- CIE 293-7
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11. His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."
"As concerns the peculiar epithet “Iusa,” it should be noted that “Jesus” in the original Greek is Iesous or Iasous,1 while in Arabic the name is Issa. In Croatian and other Slavic languages “Jesus” takes the forms of Isus, Isusu or Isusa, while in Irish and Gaelic the name is Iosa. "... Iusa is a combination of the Egyptian word iu ... correctly stated by him to mean “to come,”4 and sa, rightly defined as “son.”5 Hence, Iu-sa would be “the coming son,” which would refer to Horus on a daily and annual basis..." "In an Egyptian text, the term iu sa refers to the evening sun god ...”
"During the Middle Kingdom, the god Shu became popular enough to warrant what is modernly called a “Shu Theology,” as exemplified in the Coffin Texts. CT Sp. 75, for instance, is specifically devised “for the soul of Shu and for becoming Shu.”6 In the same spell, Shu is the “one who foretells him when he ascends from the horizon,” whom Faulkner suggests is the sun god, while “Shu is the god of air” and the “‘foretelling’ of the sunrise may refer to the atmospheric hues which announce the coming dawn.”7 Shu is also “he who despatches the word of the Self-created to the multitudes,”8 like Jesus in his role as the Word of the Creator appearing to the masses. And we also hear that Shu is “one invisible of shape” and is “merged in the Sunshine god,”1 reminding us both of the Ineffable God the Father and his “Sun of Righteousness” Jesus Christ."
- CIE 322-327
Malachi 4:2, "But for you who revere my name, the
sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings."
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