FreeThinkAluva said: "nor can they [Christians] provide any valid primary source evidence for even a historical Jesus, let alone the biblical Jesus who was the son of god who did and said all of those things the bible claims.
Reply: The New Testament documents are the primary source information we have about Christ. These are Greek manuscripts coming out of the first century.
LOL, even Christian New Testament scholars disagree with you:
"The Gospels are neither histories nor biographies, even within the ancient tolerances for those genres."
- Dr. John Dominic Crossan
In The Journal of the American Academy of Religion (vol. 68, 2000), Mark Allan Powell said that the dominant view among New Testament scholars is therefore that the Passion narratives are early and based on eyewitness testimony.
Actually, there were many Passion narratives and plays long prior to the creation of Christianity, for example: The Passion of Baal/Bel/"Marduk's Ordeal"
Caesars Gallic War: 9 or 10 good copies.
The Roman historian, Livy, 20 copies.
Tacitus Annals, 2.
Thucydides history, 8.
Homers Iliad has 643 manuscript copies (most documented secular work).
New Testament, over 5300.
The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, remarks:
"The NT [New Testament] is now known, in whole or in part, in nearly five thousand Greek MSS [manuscripts] alone. Every one of these handwritten copies differs from every other one ... It has been estimated that these MSS and quotations differ among themselves between 150,000 and 250,000 times. The actual figure is, perhaps, much higher..."
"...A study of 150 Greek MSS of the Gospel of Luke has revealed more than 30,000 different readings ... It is safe to say that there is not one sentence in the NT in which the MS tradition is wholly uniform."
"...Many thousands of the variants which are found in the MSS of the NT were put there deliberately. They are not merely the result of error or of careless handling of the text. Many were created for theological or dogmatic reasons… It is because the books of the NT are religious books, sacred books, canonical books, that they were changed to conform to what the copyist believed to be the true reading."
- Who Was Jesus?, pages 48/49
* The TID is a conservative Christian authority "Text, NT," v. 4; 594-595
So, as you may have figured out, this is just one example of how Christian apologists utilize all these different readings even of the same books to claim: '...more evidence for Jesus than any other famous figures in history
Here's an image of the list of evidence between Jesus and Caesar